RamistThomist
Puritanboard Clerk
I was sad to see this thread derailed by Glover's views on civilian firearm ownership not that I fault him for that happening. I don't. I am disappointed to see this tread for the most part miss Piper's concern: The issue is about the whole tenor and focus and demeanor and heart-attitude of the Christian life. I put my cards on the table; I have no issue with civilians owning firearms. I own several myself. I have no issue with conceal & carry, open carry or Falwell allowing guns on his campus. I think Piper's message would have been better served by putting this in the context with other examples of how one may suffer for Christ's and His Gospel's sake. Piper's example of Jim Elliot and his friends is extremely illustrative of being armed and NOT using the weapons. That's behavior that fascinates and inspires me.
Fair enough. We just dispute Piper's premises. His premises support martyrdom when being persecuted for the gospel. But his conclusions want to support other premises. It doesn't add.