I have a daughter whwhom is almost 5 years old, and i know that she likes to do you a sport. Myself when i was young i did judo, jui-jitsu and teakwondo all martial arts.I was wondering what your thoughts are ? Can i send my daughter for martial arts or not not ? Iam struggeling with that, bcause i don't have a clear view about, so iam sorry for my igonorance ? Any help and thoughts are welcome.
The christian and martial arts ?
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sotzo
Puritan Board Sophomore
The Bible is silent on this matter and I can see no Biblical principle that could be applied to this by "good and necessary consequence"....in light of that you are free to decide either way on this.
charliejunfan
Puritan Board Senior
Like Kevin said, as long as there is no spiritual ceremony stuff. I actually teach the martial arts of Jeet Kune Do and Filipino Martial Arts(Kali), JKD and Kali schools practice no rituals, we just train for sport, self defence, excercise and fun.
Yes, you can enroll your daughter for martial arts. It could be a great way to increase physical conditioning, while giving instruction in discipline...We hope to enroll our eldest daughter when she is three years old.
charliejunfan
Puritan Board Senior
Sarah there is a great school(I used to attend before I began to teach) kinda close to you, the web adress is theblastma.com There is no crazy pagan things there.
OPC'n
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SemperEruditio
Puritan Board Junior
Can you teach her? I'm sure there are fine places you could go but what better way to learn than from dear, old dad?
Poimen
Puritan Board Post-Graduate
If you want to combine the martial arts with the metal Bible you can always get a little creative
A new meaning to the term 'Bible thumper'.
You now have permission to groan.
SemperEruditio
Puritan Board Junior
KrapMaga is not for kids and I would not recommend it for adults either.
Why ?
PresbyDane
Puritanboard Doctor
If you want to combine the martial arts with the metal Bible you can always get a little creative
Cool I have to get a pair of those
SemperEruditio
Puritan Board Junior
The garbage they advocate is dangerous. The gun disarms are unrealistic and fall apart when practiced with someone who does not know how they are "supposed" to move. It's also a "by the numbers" kinda system but nothing in a real life altercation happens by the numbers.
charliejunfan
Puritan Board Senior
Stick with Jeet Kune Do(bruce lee, bourne Identity-Supremacy-Ultimatum), Filipino Kali(The Hunted, Bourne Identity-Supremacy-Ultimatum), and Brazilian JuJitsu(UFC, MMA) mixed with Kino Mutai(art of breaking fingers, biting, and eye gouging)
SemperEruditio
Puritan Board Junior
His daughter is ALMOST five....
Now there's a martial art to teach people how to break fingers, bite, and eye gouge. I bet dollars to doughnuts you do not need to teach a five year old how to do these things. If anything we unlearn these skills of our naturally depraved nature but need a system in how is ridiculous. Again she is almost five and I am pretty certain he's not looking to make her into the next Bruce Lee Bourne fighting in the UFC gouging out some guys skull.....she's ALMOST five.
AThornquist
Puritan Board Doctor
"You stole my Pokemon card!" **breaks fingers**
SemperEruditio
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matthew11v25
Puritan Board Sophomore
I hear Aikido is good. Advocating skill similar to judo/jujitsu but with the intent to disarm the opponent without hurting them if possible. Supposedly law enforcement uses it frequently.
charliejunfan
Puritan Board Senior
Yo Frank! I was not talking directly to the person who has a five year old! That is precisely the point of JKD, Kali, Kino Mutai, is to use what is natural to the human body, that way one does not have to stop and think of which art to use at certain times, it just flows because JKD, Kali, Kino Mutai are just "signs and seals" if you will, like Bruce Lee said, "Jeet Kune Do is just a boat(a framework made up of absorb what is useful, reject what is useless) to take across the river of knowledge(Martial Arts techniques and training methods needed to give one a well rounded base in the five ranges=Kicking, punching, trapping(clinch/infighting/limb immobilization), groundfighting, and weapons) once you are across the river (once you have a well rounded understanding of combat) the boat is no longer needed, so you discard it." In other words, if it were me, I would go from being just natural Charlie to Trained Charlie to natrual Charlie - Before I studied martial arts a kick was a kick and a punch a punch, once I studied martial arts a kick was more than a kick and a punch more than a punch, once I understood the martial arts a kick was just a kick and a punch just a punch. JKD, Kali, and BJJKM are the best simply because their concepts are that it is not technique that matters but attribute, I could learn all the Martial Arts techniques in the world but if I didn't have the necessary attributes behind them then they would be useless. We who teach JKD and the like try and utilize the most natural movements of the body, actually our core JKD system has only 8 moves(this system is used by over 50government agencies including the famous Navy Seal Team 6) So instead of starting people with how to punch properly we teach them to take that eye poke(eye jab, what have you) and develope the attributes behind it such as speed, quickness, nontelographicness, and so on. Any martial art can be used functionally if you spend enough time practicing, but only certain martial arts can be used functionally in hours rather than years. I was certified by Progressive Fighting Systems by Sifu Paul Vunak(2nd generation bruce lee student), in fact my name Charlie Barribeau is at the top of his instructors under him list at ---- fighting.net I used to have my website attached but I scrapped that one to make a better one, I will have it up soon.
Anyways, we have different body structures so everyone has to adapt any art to themselves in areas while also adapting themselves to the art, for instance, if someone had no left arm but they were doing ground fighting then they would have learn to use their legs and so on alot better. With a blind person, we would teach them to use sensativity to fight, NOT sight. We take from any martial art out there and try and mold it to our body types and certain of us favor this technique while the guy next to us discards it, it may sound "spiritual" but it is not it IS "philosophical". There was a more realistic and deep thinking Bruce Lee that people did not witness in his movies.
It is a hacking away process, you clump on more clay only to strip it away revealing truth in combat or excercise or whatever. Sculpting away only to refine, reveal and perfect, its like sanctification lol.
SO FRANK!!! STOP BEING SO ONRY OR I'LL SHOW HOW EYE GOUGING IS DONE!!! JK brother lol !!!!!!!!?!!!!!!!!
Anyways, we have different body structures so everyone has to adapt any art to themselves in areas while also adapting themselves to the art, for instance, if someone had no left arm but they were doing ground fighting then they would have learn to use their legs and so on alot better. With a blind person, we would teach them to use sensativity to fight, NOT sight. We take from any martial art out there and try and mold it to our body types and certain of us favor this technique while the guy next to us discards it, it may sound "spiritual" but it is not it IS "philosophical". There was a more realistic and deep thinking Bruce Lee that people did not witness in his movies.
It is a hacking away process, you clump on more clay only to strip it away revealing truth in combat or excercise or whatever. Sculpting away only to refine, reveal and perfect, its like sanctification lol.
SO FRANK!!! STOP BEING SO ONRY OR I'LL SHOW HOW EYE GOUGING IS DONE!!! JK brother lol !!!!!!!!?!!!!!!!!
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SemperEruditio
Puritan Board Junior
You lost quite a bit of credibility with the introduction of SEAL Team 6. Every system has been brought in by the Research & Development Team to see what it has to offer. That alone is grounds for the ambiguous statement that "our system has been used by Seal Team 6."
I thought Lee said to be like water...now JKD is a boat? When did this happen?
I learned Contemporary Fighting Arts from Sammy Franco. He and Vunak know each other. I find it interesting how lineage is not only important in theology but also in martial arts.
BTW you can't eye gouge me because I am wearing my motorcycle helmet.
Saw the PFS videotape 12 years ago.
I thought Lee said to be like water...now JKD is a boat? When did this happen?
I learned Contemporary Fighting Arts from Sammy Franco. He and Vunak know each other. I find it interesting how lineage is not only important in theology but also in martial arts.
BTW you can't eye gouge me because I am wearing my motorcycle helmet.
Saw the PFS videotape 12 years ago.
charliejunfan
Puritan Board Senior
WOW you're a real instegater aren't you, I only used the seals for the benefit of those who are not familiar with these things, since most respect the seals(I personally think they are nothing but brute force and weaponry). Yes Bruce said be like water, which simply meant, adapt to the opponent, use their own force against them, Bruce said that water can flow or drip or beat down violently, it can also take the form of whatever you put it in, it is one of the softest things in the world and yet it can penetrate rock.
This is an example from my favorite anime Cowboy Bebop [video=youtube;cc0Dkp0vJl8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc0Dkp0vJl8[/video]
Using Cowboy Bebop again, this is how a JKD practioner wants to fight, Like water:
[video=youtube;_0WKeRcQdFg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0WKeRcQdFg&feature=related[/video]
and one more with Dan Inosanto, Bruce's best student:
[video=youtube;13Ymvv-DE5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Ymvv-DE5I[/video] (comedy-ish)
This is an example from my favorite anime
Cowboy Bebop [video=youtube;cc0Dkp0vJl8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc0Dkp0vJl8[/video]Using Cowboy Bebop again, this is how a JKD practioner wants to fight, Like water:
[video=youtube;_0WKeRcQdFg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0WKeRcQdFg&feature=related[/video]
and one more with Dan Inosanto, Bruce's best student:
[video=youtube;13Ymvv-DE5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Ymvv-DE5I[/video] (comedy-ish)
AThornquist
Puritan Board Doctor
I don't think I can support a fighting style that trains using small Japanese people as punching bags. Hyper-calvinist punching bags, maybe.
SpokenFor
Puritan Board Freshman
I must say I'm shocked at the answers on this subject from this particular messageboard.
Martial arts are steeped in Eastern Religions. You can't really take that out any more than you can take it out of yoga.
I think gotanswers.org sums up my feelings on the subject best:
Is it right for a Christian to be involved in martial arts?
(SpokenFor dons flame-proof suit)
Martial arts are steeped in Eastern Religions. You can't really take that out any more than you can take it out of yoga.
I think gotanswers.org sums up my feelings on the subject best:
Is it right for a Christian to be involved in martial arts?
(SpokenFor dons flame-proof suit)
LawrenceU
Puritan Board Doctor
I was focusing on the non-religious aspect of the arts and forgot that she was talking about a child. You are right Krav Maga is not for kids. A good bit of what is taught here is not the real deal. Krav Maga as the IDF teaches is quite effective and is not a numbers system at all. It is very fluid to the situation. But, then everyone has their beefs with every other person's system of fighting. Sambo is very effective in many situations, much more so than BJJ in the real world but it is almost unheard of in the US while BJJ seems to be all the rage.
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