Change in my eschatological position

[Herald]

The current threads on the premillennial position have nothing to do with my eschatological position but I thought it a good time to share my change of conviction nonetheless. As a former dispensationalist I held on to my premillennial viewpoint with a death grip. Unfortunately I can no longer hold on to the remnants of things I no longer believe. The weight of scripture and the arguments I have heard in support of other eschatological positions has caused me to change. I find myself leaning heavily towards the amillennial position. But instead of a death grip, I'm holding on to it comfortably.

That's all. Continue on with your normal PBing.

 

[Scott1]

It sounds like you are beyond the basic level in this topic but this recording "millennium" on Dr Sproul's web site is a very helpful overview of major millennial views. There are also a couple comments about modern dispensational premillennialism, but mostly it is a very fair and charitable overview of the three major millennial views.

Ligonier Ministries


Scott
PCA
North Carolina

 

[biggandyy]

I won't hold it against R.C., even he can be wrong occasionally

 

[Backwoods Presbyterian]

I would point you to Greg Bahnsen's & Ken Gentry's [ame="http://www.amazon.com/House-Divided-Break-Dispensational-Theology/dp/0930464273/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223328059&sr=8-1"]House Divided[/ame] as an excellent resource for one moving from Dispensational and/or pre-millennial position to a more Reformed position.

 

[Herald]

Oh, and you paedos stop frothing at the mouth. It's a change in eschatology. That's all.

 

[biggandyy]

I would point you to Greg Bahnsen's & Ken Gentry's House Divided as an excellent resource for one moving from Dispensational and/or pre-millennial position to a more Reformed position.

Ok, I'll take a read... can't resist learning.

 

[MrMerlin777]

The current threads on the premillennial position have nothing to do with my eschatological position but I thought it a good time to share my change of conviction nonetheless. As a former dispensationalist I held on to my premillennial viewpoint with a death grip. Unfortunately I can no longer hold on to the remnants of things I no longer believe. The weight of scripture and the arguments I have heard in support of other eschatological positions has caused me to change. I find myself leaning heavily towards the amillennial position. But instead of a death grip, I'm holding on to it comfortably.

That's all. Continue on with your normal PBing.

Welcome to the "dark side" brother. (jk)

 

[charliejunfan]

Oh don't worry North Jersey Baptist, WE WILL make you PAEDO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

 

[Anton Bruckner]

Oh, and you paedos stop frothing at the mouth. It's a change in eschatology. That's all.

we're waiting patiently pretty soon you will be a Ron Paul fan.

 

[Herald]

Oh, and you paedos stop frothing at the mouth. It's a change in eschatology. That's all.

Did you just call everyone who's reading this thread and frothing at the mouth an infant?

Josh, I am the epitome of grace when it comes to my words. I would never say such a thing.

 

[turmeric]

Oh, and you paedos stop frothing at the mouth. It's a change in eschatology. That's all.

That's all right, Bill, we understand that sanctification is progressive - you're coming along great!!!

 

[nicnap]

I would point you to Greg Bahnsen's & Ken Gentry's House Divided as an excellent resource for one moving from Dispensational and/or pre-millennial position to a more Reformed position.

Ok, I'll take a read... can't resist learning.

 

[rjlynam]

Oh, and you paedos stop frothing at the mouth. It's a change in eschatology. That's all.

Next, you'll buy fully into covenant theology. Then it's paedo baptism, and then, full blown postmillenialism. Keep walking in and toward the light brother.

 

[Herald]

Read my lips. No more changes!

 

[Pilgrim]

Read my lips. No more changes!

Famous last words.

 

[Pilgrim]

The current threads on the premillennial position have nothing to do with my eschatological position but I thought it a good time to share my change of conviction nonetheless. As a former dispensationalist I held on to my premillennial viewpoint with a death grip. Unfortunately I can no longer hold on to the remnants of things I no longer believe. The weight of scripture and the arguments I have heard in support of other eschatological positions has caused me to change. I find myself leaning heavily towards the amillennial position. But instead of a death grip, I'm holding on to it comfortably.

That's all. Continue on with your normal PBing.

I think I may be going the other direction. I was amil for several years, but I am only beginning to study eschatology in a serious way. That being the case, I'm not currently holding any position with a death grip.

 

[Backwoods Presbyterian]

Oh, and you paedos stop frothing at the mouth. It's a change in eschatology. That's all.

Did you just call everyone who's reading this thread and frothing at the mouth an infant?

 

[rjlynam]

Read my lips. No more changes!

You may even become a Phillies fan someday !

 

[reformedcop]

Oh, and you paedos stop frothing at the mouth. It's a change in eschatology. That's all.

*Wiping Mouth* That much closer ...

 

[MW]

Read my lips. No more changes!

Famous last words.

 

[DMcFadden]

Read my lips. No more changes!

Bill, that's what I thought when joining the PB. Now look at me! I've abandoned the safe harbor of historic premillennialism, the view taught to me at Westmont AND Fuller! As Momma Boucher said in the "Waterboy," that Riddlebarger, "he's the devil." First he hooks you with his eschatology and then you find yourself questioning the "obvious" meaning of baptism in the NT!

BTW, the man who baptized me in January of 1963 (as a nine year old), spent his last years as a resident in my retirement community. Until his dying day, he swore that his only mistake was not holding me under longer.

 

[CharlieJ]

BTW, the man who baptized me in January of 1963 (as a nine year old), spent his last years as a resident in my retirement community. Until his dying day, he swore that his only mistake was not holding me under longer.

Scary. THAT might make me a paedobaptist.

 

[bookslover]

The current threads on the premillennial position have nothing to do with my eschatological position but I thought it a good time to share my change of conviction nonetheless. As a former dispensationalist I held on to my premillennial viewpoint with a death grip. Unfortunately I can no longer hold on to the remnants of things I no longer believe. The weight of scripture and the arguments I have heard in support of other eschatological positions has caused me to change. I find myself leaning heavily towards the amillennial position. But instead of a death grip, I'm holding on to it comfortably.

That's all. Continue on with your normal PBing.

No longer premil? Must be the colchichine or the allopurinal...

 

[DMcFadden]

Hey, don't make fun of Allopurinal. I swear by that stuff. It is my only hope of living without the excruciating pain of gout (sortof like a combination of the worst sprain you ever had + pouring alcohol on an open wound . . . at the same time!).

 

[Solus Christus]

Oh, and you paedos stop frothing at the mouth. It's a change in eschatology. That's all.

Next, you'll buy fully into covenant theology. Then it's paedo baptism, and then, full blown postmillenialism. Keep walking in and toward the light brother.

Woot! Three for three. So what's next?

 

[bookslover]

Hey, don't make fun of Allopurinal. I swear by that stuff. It is my only hope of living without the excruciating pain of gout (sortof like a combination of the worst sprain you ever had + pouring alcohol on an open wound . . . at the same time!).

Tell me about it! I'm on Allopurinal myself...

 

[Herald]

Hey, don't make fun of Allopurinal. I swear by that stuff. It is my only hope of living without the excruciating pain of gout (sortof like a combination of the worst sprain you ever had + pouring alcohol on an open wound . . . at the same time!).

Dennis, you tell 'em!

 

[rjlynam]

oh, and you paedos stop frothing at the mouth. It's a change in eschatology. That's all.

next, you'll buy fully into covenant theology. Then it's paedo baptism, and then, full blown postmillenialism. Keep walking in and toward the light brother.

woot! Three for three. So what's next?

glory

 

[FenderPriest]

The current threads on the premillennial position have nothing to do with my eschatological position but I thought it a good time to share my change of conviction nonetheless. As a former dispensationalist I held on to my premillennial viewpoint with a death grip. Unfortunately I can no longer hold on to the remnants of things I no longer believe. The weight of scripture and the arguments I have heard in support of other eschatological positions has caused me to change. I find myself leaning heavily towards the amillennial position. But instead of a death grip, I'm holding on to it comfortably.

That's all. Continue on with your normal PBing.

Watch out, in no time at all you'll start being accused of being a pessimist, and having no hope to your eschatology. But take heart brother, we must endure these trials until the end!

 

[Scott1]

The current threads on the premillennial position have nothing to do with my eschatological position but I thought it a good time to share my change of conviction nonetheless. As a former dispensationalist I held on to my premillennial viewpoint with a death grip. Unfortunately I can no longer hold on to the remnants of things I no longer believe. The weight of scripture and the arguments I have heard in support of other eschatological positions has caused me to change. I find myself leaning heavily towards the amillennial position. But instead of a death grip, I'm holding on to it comfortably.

That's all. Continue on with your normal PBing.

Watch out, in no time at all you'll start being accused of being a pessimist, and having no hope to your eschatology. But take heart brother, we must endure these trials until the end!

I'm not advocating a millennial position here, but I note you could adopt the term I see occassionally on Puritan Board, an "optimistic amillenialist" or call yourself a "non-utopian postmillenialist." (only confounds those who do not understand all the more).