The Westminster Confession into the 21st Century

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I have consulted the "search" service and I found some quotes from "The Westminster Confession into the 21st Century" by Duncan. Anyway I could'nt find a whole recension of the book. Is it worth to buy? I am also going to buy Sproul's commentary on WCF. I have already read some Sproul's books and I found them very powerful, clear and easy to understand!
 
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You can make do with the online WCF commentaries I think as the 21st century series is worth having more; get it over the Sproul commentary set. If money abounds then of course do as you wish.:)
 
The Westminster Confession into the 21st Century has a number of excellent essays (I especially enjoyed Philip Ryken on Oliver Bowles; R. Scott Clark and Joel Beeke on "Ursinus, Oxford and the Westminster Divines"; Joseph Hall's comparison of the Westminster Shorter and Heidelberg Catechisms; Hugh Cartwright on church-state relations; etc.) and one atrocious essay (Nick Needham on psalms and hymns).

For remarks on Sproul's commentary on the WCF as well as extracts (and some of my recommendations on good WCF commentaries), see this thread:

http://www.puritanboard.com/f29/truths-we-confess-vol-2-r-c-sproul-sr-23471/

Many good confessional commentaries may be found online here:

Links and Downloads Manager - Confession of Faith - The PuritanBoard
 
I have cosulted the "search" service and I found some quotes from "The Westminster Confession into the 21st Century" by Duncan. Anyway I could'nt find a whole recension of the book. Is it worth to buy it? I am also going to buy Sproul's commentary of WCF. I have already read some Sproul's books and I found them very powerful, clear and easy to understand!


I own both sets. They are both very useful in their own way. I agree with the comment that the 21st Century series is worth having more than Sproul. But still, Sproul is very good, and worth having if you can get both!
 
What's up with volume 3 of this series? I have only seen it for sale one place for twice as much ($50) as the other two volumes...
 
I also have the 2 volume set of the WCF into the 21st Century. Its worth the money.
 
Marty,
There is a relatively short review in CPJ 3 within the second part of the survey of sixty years of regulative principle material, and my appendix to it bouncing off of the Needham is posted on my PB blog. Matthew Winzer, who did the leg work for the few pages in CPJ 3, is working on an extended review of Needham's work for CPJ 4, D.V.
The Meaning of "Psalm" in the Westminster Standards - The PuritanBoard

But in the meantime you can read Rev. Winzer's review of Iain Murray's "Psalter: The Only Hymnal?" here where he dealt with Iain Murray's claims to uninspired hymns among Westminster and Scottish Reformation divines (some of the same claims Needham did in his article).
 
Yes, also interested in news about vol.3.
Saw it listed several times on amazon and/or Focus, but was never able to get a firm lead on it. Does it exist?
 
[...] and one atrocious essay (Nick Needham on psalms and hymns).

Dear Andrew, where can I find a critique of Needham's essay?

Cheers, Marty.

:offtopic: Whatever your view of Nick Needham's essay on psalmody (I would have preferred it if they had chosen to ignore the subject in these volumes) don't let it put you off his excellent books on church history, especially the 3 volume 2000 Years of Christ's Power series.
 
I'll second, Mr. Ritchie's recommendation.
Needham's trilogy is an excellent overview and contains excerpts from many relevant primary sources. Best multi-volume that I have read (2nd is probably the Pelican set).
Best Single volume history - Shelly's Church History in Plain Language.
Go get 'em!
 
I still have GI Williamson's commentary on the WCOF, which I've found helpful.

If you don't have the eSword download, it's free, and has an add-on for the WCOF annotated (proof texts).
 
What's up with volume 3 of this series? I have only seen it for sale one place for twice as much ($50) as the other two volumes...

To follow up on this, as I mentioned to Todd, I've seen a couple of indicators online that volume 3 is actually forthcoming (although there are other references which say it was published in 2005). I am not clear on this but Rowland Ward recently indicated volume 3 should be out soon and a recent critique of Nick Needham's essay (for which I am thankful, although I'm not seeking to start up a new controversy on song or instruments in worship) also refers to the planned, upcoming third volume.

Does anyone know more about volume 3?
 
I have already read some Sproul's books and I found them very powerful, clear and easy to understand!

I found Dr Sproul's commentary on the Westminster Confession, Truths We Confess to be exactly that. He is is very gifted in making the profound understandable. This is a three volume set you can refer to over the years.

Dr GI Williamson's Confession of Faith for Study Classes is also a very good resource and one you can go back and refer to over the years.
 
Update on this. The extended review by Matthew Winzer should be out along with the rest of CPJ 4 in early December. It is slated to complete next week by the 26th at the book maker, and then it is simply a matter of it getting the freight here and then getting issues out to the subscribers. Matthew did some fine work.

The review opens thus:
An attempt has recently been made by Nick Needham “to give an accurate historical judgment relating to the [Westminster] Assembly’s views and deliverances relating to exclusive psalmody and non-instrumental worship.”1 If, however, one were expecting to find a detailed examination of the writings of the divines, he would be sorely disappointed. Throughout the article reference is made to only one fragment of writing from a member of the Assembly; all other quotations are taken from the statements of individual Puritans who neither attended the Westminster Assembly nor spoke specifically to the issue of exclusive psalmody. Moreover, no use has been made of the valuable historical material to be found in the writings of those members who have provided some sketches of its proceedings. Given this regrettable state of affairs, it must be said that the article fails in its attempt to provide an accurate historical judgment on the Assembly’s views. Whoever is the rightful possessor of the views Mr. Needham has represented, they have not been shown to belong to the Westminster Assembly.
1. J. Ligon Duncan, The Westminster Confession into the 21st century, 2, ed. J. Ligon Duncan (Ross-shire, Scotland: Christian Focus Publications, 2005) xiii. Hereafter referred to as Westminster.
Matthew then proceeds with reviewing Needham's handling of the regulative principle, singing of psalms, and then briefly, musical instruments. The most extensive section is the middle dealing with Westminster and singing of psalms. Under that portion of the review he covers.

  • The Historical-contextual Interpretation of “Singing of Psalms” in the Westminster formularies.
  • External Evidence: the Milieu of 1640s London.
  • Advocates for Exclusive Psalmody Amongst the Westminster Assembly of Divines.
  • The Wider Puritan Tradition.
For those interested in the subject this review is practically worth the price of the issue. ;) And you get much more with it.:)
Marty,
There is a relatively short review in CPJ 3 within the second part of the survey of sixty years of regulative principle material, and my appendix to it bouncing off of the Needham is posted on my PB blog. Matthew Winzer, who did the leg work for the few pages in CPJ 3, is working on an extended review of Needham's work for CPJ 4, D.V.
The Meaning of "Psalm" in the Westminster Standards - The PuritanBoard
 
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