Tragically, Clark died a Nestorian.
I understand the dangers of Nestorianism. However, might this be a little bit of an overstatement to say it is spreading “like wildfire everywhere”? I don’t know a single Nestorian in my Reformed circles. I’ve never even met one. And most people I know have no clue who Gordon Clark is. I’m not denying that it’s out there, nor that it’s dangerous, but is it really this bad?
What “business”? Nobody has advocated Nestorianism here on Puritan Board that I can tell. The only one you seem to be going after here has said over and over that Clark was wrong on this point. I don’t understand how one innocuous statement about the number of questionable quotes from a Clark book has brought all this on.
There is much I can't say publicly but would be willing to discuss privately. The influences of Nestorianism do exist elsewhere independent of Clark. In fact, it's possible Clark was influenced by some who were the roots of influence in other circles. For example, many follow RC Sproul's teaching that only the "human nature" atoned (teaching specifically the "divine person" could not). Many reformed theologians have considered those teachings of RC Sproul's of nestorian influenced. But currently many followers of Gordon H Clark are being exposed as Nestorians. Most who are Nestorians hide it because they know they would be rejected by true reformed. Sadly, some teachings that have happened in the PB that are publicly available have caused a lot of harm, and some are quoted frequently in debates with followers of Clark. I'm a member of a theological research group and we have been studying this for years. Lord's blessings to you.
I’m not saying there aren’t Nestorians anywhere. I’m just wondering if it’s as bad as you claim it is. And, unfortunately, I’m just not really moved by such a vague post as this.
It seems you either misread my statement, or overlooked the reference to R.C. Sproul that I used as an example. Our theological research group is uncovering much influence of Nestorianism throughout the reformed and calvinistic churches. And the example I mentioned to you about R.C. Sproul is a perfect example. Many reformed theologians consider R.C. Sproul's teachings that "Only the Human Nature Atoned (not the divine person)" as a Nestorian influenced position. More and more are adopting this teaching of R.C. Sproul, for example.
We know! But be warned that some of your lay people have fallen prey to Clark's teachings and some have become Nestorian and others are borderline (also in your sister churches). And many of your lay people have been adversely affected by Clark's teachings in other ways too.
I saw your reference to Sproul. The rest of what you’ve said is vague. You are part of a nameless “theological research group” who has allegedly uncovered a host of nameless closet Nestorians in the nameless and general Reformed world, except for the PRCA, a claim which has been explicitly contradicted by a minister in that very denomination. You have made nothing but general assertions, yet given no hard statistical evidence. I’m not sure what kind of “theological research group” you’re a part of, but I would like to see some actual research and not just bare assertions.
How do you know what his particular laypeople believe? This is a remarkably specific accusation against this man’s church. Do you know these people?
