If you had to pick one place to live...

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Been to Europe and Africa. Send me to the Blue Ridge Mountains.
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If I had the money I'd live in San Diego, Ca., beautiful city and climate, and plenty of mission opportunities.
If I were to live out of the US it would be Costa Rica, Libertarian government, lovely climate, and plenty of mission opportunities.
 
Heaven. Outside of the United States that is the only place I would rather reside.
 
Originally posted by VirginiaHuguenot
Mountains and Why We Love Them by J.G. Machen
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:up:Thanks, great read! I love Mountains.

I was raised in the shadow of the great Sierra Nevada mountains. Some of my earliest memories are of camping in the Sierras. I was fortunate enough to have had many formative teenage experiences while working in the Sierras. I've spent many many miles and days backpacking and climbing through the Sierras. I was married in the Sierras. I've also lived in the shadow of the Adirondacks, another great mountain range. There's just something about the mountains that display the awesome power and glory of the almighty God like no other place. I've always had a deep longing to be near mountains, just to be able to see the high peaks in the distance is comforting. And I can't even begin to describe how mind numbingly dull it is to live today without any mountains in sight. I've been in the lowlands too long.
 
While we are wishing... how about North Korea?


It is all but closed to the Gospel.




Might as well dream big.
 
1. Australia
2. New Zealand
3.Western Canada
4. Scotland
5. Northern Ireland

English-speaking, please!
 
Until I saw Joe's pictures of Indonesia I would have said
Xalapa (also spelled Jalapa), Mexico
Colombia
Russia

Fortunately, I don't have to decide --Mexico City, Mexico is confirmed.
 
Hey Joe;

Thanks for the Indonesia pics. Man oh man, don't show those pics of traffic. I want to avoid Jakarta like the plague.

The volcano pics are awesome.

The non-urban part of Indonesia are the prettiest places I have ever seen. But yikes!!! The city is hot, smelly, humid, crowded hell on earth.
 
Originally posted by trevorjohnson
What about the apartheid? Why 1961?
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'61 was the beginning of the South African Republic. Afrikaner society was reformed to the core. See Dr. F.N. Lee's book on Afrikaner Christendom. Lee's book doesn't give much attention to apartheid. What I've seen and heard of it is extremely negative but I would expect that from a communistic/egalitarian media so I will suspend my judgment until I hear the Afrikaner perspective.
 
When I was coming to the doctrines of grace, I did read a book that linked Calvinism with apartheid.

After all, if God ordained men's lives, he also ordained their positions in life. Therefore, God has placed the Dutch above the African and the southern presbyterian over the American slave.

This issue was an obstacle to me at first.

Add all this to the "romance" of the South among many calvinists and the endearment that many have to the heroes of the Confederacy (including me..Stonewall rocks!) and it makes for some confusion.

Any helps as to how I should view this whole issue? Any books?
 
Originally posted by trevorjohnson
When I was coming to the doctrines of grace, I did read a book that linked Calvinism with apartheid.

After all, if God ordained men's lives, he also ordained their positions in life. Therefore, God has placed the Dutch above the African and the southern presbyterian over the American slave.

This issue was an obstacle to me at first.

Add all this to the "romance" of the South among many calvinists and the endearment that many have to the heroes of the Confederacy (including me..Stonewall rocks!) and it makes for some confusion.

Any helps as to how I should view this whole issue? Any books?
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I would recommend the link above. It will definiately clear up the fact Afrikaner society was largely Christian until as late as the 1980s while America was completely sunken into modernism and debauchery- even if you come to the conclusion aparthied was sinful, something I'm not yet convinced of.

>"After all, if God ordained men's lives, he also ordained their positions in life. Therefore, God has placed the Dutch above the African and the southern presbyterian over the American slave."

This is of course a logical fallacy. It no way follows b/c God ordains all things that he condones oppression. Paul deals with this objection in Ro 3, "let us do evil that good may come."


>"Add all this to the "romance" of the South among many calvinists and the endearment that many have to the heroes of the Confederacy (including me..Stonewall rocks!) and it makes for some confusion."

I personally don't buy the whole pro-confederacy rhetoric. The South was nearly as deistic and anti-christian as the north. Compare their constitutions. Is there much of a difference? Ok, so the CS was agnostic while the US was athiest. Big deal. And like my spiritual predecessors, I too see Negro slavery as an immoral and unjustifiable institution.

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[Edited on 12-20-2005 by Peter]
 
Originally posted by trevorjohnson
Hey Joe;

Thanks for the Indonesia pics. Man oh man, don't show those pics of traffic. I want to avoid Jakarta like the plague.

The volcano pics are awesome.

The non-urban part of Indonesia are the prettiest places I have ever seen. But yikes!!! The city is hot, smelly, humid, crowded hell on earth.
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There was just something about Jakarta that I loved.I have heard somebody describe Jakarta just like the famous southeast Asian fruit called Durian,also called stinky fruit.It`s ugly and it stinks,but once you bite into it,you`ll love it.I hated it myself the first few weeks,but afterwards I wanted to stay longer.Oh and it is cheeeeap to live and eat there for American standards.
 
Originally posted by Puritanhead
It's ashamed that one often feels compulsion to couple economic factors in-- how many beautiful countries are striving to be "socialist worker's paradises?" Those places are not for me! On the other hand, Switzerland is a crown jewel in Europe renowned for it's a beauty and economic liberalization! Viva de la capitalismo!
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Indeed. Denmark and Switzerland resemble capitalism more than the U.S. Are you aware that the U.S. government controls more of its economy and owns more of its land than does China?

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Joe,

The traffic seems fairly comparable to Mexico City rush hour --but those pictures of the countryside are amazingly gorgeous.
 
Amen to the Durian comments!!!

They are very tasty. But if you leave one in your car in 95 degree heat and then open the door.......watch out brother!!!!!

I was dry-heaving from the stench for 10 minutes!
 
New Zealand would be awesome. But I love the Rockies too much. I'd have to settle in the West somewhere, preferable western Montana or Washington.
 
Originally posted by trevorjohnson
Amen to the Durian comments!!!

They are very tasty. But if you leave one in your car in 95 degree heat and then open the door.......watch out brother!!!!!

I was dry-heaving from the stench for 10 minutes!
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:lol:
 
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