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Durbin doesn’t write much I think.I'm waiting for Durbin or White to actually put in writing. Easier to interact with that way.
Ok, somebody had to listen to it, so I did--every word.Pastor Durbin offers reasons to believe in the postmil perspective.
That’s me!If I were to leave premillennialism (I'm sitting on the fence), I would opt for "pessimistic amil."
If I were to leave premillennialism (I'm sitting on the fence), I would opt for "pessimistic amil."
That’s me!
No worries! No, I’m not embarrassed to affirm amillennialism, which is the historic position of the church catholic. And I definitely think that the NT makes it clear that while things may wax and wane we will definitely expect to see great apostasy and rebellion prior to the return of Jesus.Really? And this doesn't embarrass you?
Numbers 13:27-33
And they told him, and said, We came unto the land whither thou sentest us, and surely it floweth with milk and honey; and this is the fruit of it.
Nevertheless, the people be strong that dwell in the land and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover, we saw the children of Anak there.
The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.
And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.
But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.
And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
I guess it's always been about 10 to 2 against the Great Commission. But it won't always be that way.
Now read Numbers chapter 14 for God's opinion of the Joshuah and Caleb vs the 6,000 adults and especially the 10 spies.
And please don't get mad at me. I am just expressing my opinion as you have yours.
Ed
Really? And this doesn't embarrass you?
Numbers 13:27-33
And they told him, and said, We came unto the land whither thou sentest us, and surely it floweth with milk and honey; and this is the fruit of it.
Nevertheless, the people be strong that dwell in the land and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover, we saw the children of Anak there.
The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.
And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.
But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.
And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
I guess it's always been about 10 to 2 against the Great Commission. But it won't always be that way.
Now read Numbers chapter 14 for God's opinion of the Joshuah and Caleb vs the 6,000 adults and especially the 10 spies.
And please don't get mad at me. I am just expressing my opinion as you have yours.
Ed
I agree. And for those of us who battle with the world, the flesh, and the devil (to borrow a helpful phrase from J.C. Ryle) these gimmicks do nothing to help us in spiritual warfare.Antics like smoking cigars or drinking whisky for these kinds of videos are dumb. Should I be impressed that you smoke cigars? I see this kind of stuff and I can't take a guy seriously. It's gimmicky. And like so much else these days, it's faux manly.
As much as I love Durbin, believe him to be a godly man, and benefited from his ministry, I find myself agreeing with this.Antics like smoking cigars or drinking whisky for these kinds of videos are dumb. Should I be impressed that you smoke cigars? I see this kind of stuff and I can't take a guy seriously. It's gimmicky. And like so much else these days, it's faux manly.
@BayouHuguenot @SolaScripturaAntics like smoking cigars or drinking whisky for these kinds of videos are dumb.
No worries! No, I’m not embarrassed to affirm amillennialism, which is the historic position of the church catholic. And I definitely think that the NT makes it clear that while things may wax and wane we will definitely expect to see great apostasy and rebellion prior to the return of Jesus
I can't read Durbin's name without thinking, "Jeff Dirt-bag"
That’s good ol’ Steven Anderson, archenemy of the gospel.Unfortunately, I can't read Durbin's name without thinking, "Jeff Dirt-bag" thanks to that KJV-only weirdo that James White plays on the DL -- anyone else can identify? The one who then goes into gibberish and blowing raspberries?
If you don't know what I'm talking about, just ignore.
Certainly not.I don't think we should call fellow Christians names like that. We are all very flawed. At least I am. But God NEVER sees us as anything but perfect, lovely, and He rejoices over all His own with singing. Such is His passion for ALL the saints. Paul even addressed the screwed-up Corinthians as Saints. Paul saw as God sees.
To be clear, “Jeff Dirtbag” is a name assigned to Durbin by Steven Anderson, not our brother Andrew. And I completely agree, Christians should never call each other names like that. But I’m fairly positive Steven Anderson is unregenerate, anyway. It’s inconceivable to me that someone who hates free grace as much as he does would be a genuine believer.I don't think we should call fellow Christians names like that.
That’s good ol’ Steven Anderson, archenemy of the gospel.
What do you think Ezekiel's vision teache
Let's be charitable toward Steven. According to a facebook friend that dialogues with him he's growing more understanding toward reformed Christians.To be clear, “Jeff Dirtbag” is a name assigned to Durbin by Steven Anderson, not our brother Andrew. And I completely agree, Christians should never call each other names like that. But I’m fairly positive Steven Anderson is unregenerate, anyway. It’s inconceivable to me that someone who hates free grace as much as he does would be a genuine believer.
How can something never decreed by any council and not the subject of a consensus in any era of the church be called "the historic position of the Catholic church"? I'm tired of seeing Amills twist the history. Is Augustine historic and catholic? His sermon 259 expresses a historic postmillennialism. Are the Reformers historic and catholic? They were unanimous that the pope is the Antichrist and followed historicist interpretative schemes.No worries! No, I’m not embarrassed to affirm amillennialism, which is the historic position of the church catholic. And I definitely think that the NT makes it clear that while things may wax and wane we will definitely expect to see great apostasy and rebellion prior to the return of Jesus.
That's a good reminder, and I appreciate that. I haven't seen anything form him in a few years. At the same time, I am only going on what he gladly made himself famous for—kicking pulpit while calling Calvinism the work of Satan, throwing tantrums, his hatred of and praying for the damnation of his neighbor, having congregants dragged out of his congregation in a tyrannical fit of rage, and not least his clear hatred for the gospel of free grace. He seems to be proud of his abuse, so if he is in fact changing, that would be amazing, even borderline miraculous, and a sure occasion to praise God.Let's be charitable toward Steven. According to a facebook friend that dialogues with him he's growing more understanding toward reformed Christians.
Let's be charitable toward Steven. According to a facebook friend that dialogues with him he's growing more understanding toward reformed Christians.
Let's be charitable toward Steven. According to a facebook friend that dialogues with him he's growing more understanding toward reformed Christians.
Charity is certainly a called for practice, but so is marking false teachers and avoiding them (the later seems to be something that is quickly fading from all Christendom). Steven A does fall into the false teachers category in my opinion. We can of course all continue to pray for his salvation though.Let's be charitable toward Steven. According to a facebook friend that dialogues with him he's growing more understanding toward reformed Christians.