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I'll put the Arminian hat on for you.
No, you don't "cause" Jesus to save you. You accept his offer. Since he made the offer first the "cause" of salvation is all in him. If anything, you finish his purpose or cause.
I have a feeling that what will be involved here is a differing use of the word "cause."
What they may say is that they "caused" Jesus to save them in the sense that by confessing faith in Christ, calling on the name of the Lord, etc., they met the Lord's "requirement" for salvation, and as such He gave them what He said he would give to those who met his "requirement" of faith in Christ.
I don't know, just guessing.
How can the creature cause something from the creators providence? Not at all, it has to do with effectual calling. Christ effectually calls the elect and by doing so they are drawn to Christ and and effectually accept the offer of the gospel.
ESV: John 15:16. "You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you."
This question came to me as I am speaking to those that deny the L in TULIP.
This will be interesting to see what they say....I feel bad doing this....sort of.
Would that "acceptance" be like grabbing Him, like a piece of meat, out of the freezer? Or do you remember when you "decided" to believe in Him while you didn't currently believe in Him?
I have a feeling that what will be involved here is a differing use of the word "cause."
Would that "acceptance" be like grabbing Him, like a piece of meat, out of the freezer? Or do you remember when you "decided" to believe in Him while you didn't currently believe in Him?
Arminian: I remember exactly when I decided to believe in Christ.
PS Did you move, Earl? Thought you lived up here in GA...
Always here in Casselberry Central Fla. I can not "remember" living anywhere else.