[quote:87984ef92f][i:87984ef92f]Originally posted by Paul manata[/i:87984ef92f]
despite fred's book review I would recomend it.
It is very philosophical in nature and Frame tries to be thourough so when reading it you must buckle down and be prepared for some tough times. Wittgenstein once said that philosophy is like swimming under water. It is tough when you are under but if you hold your breath long enough you will get to the other side.
The book rightly put human knowledge where it should be and also has a valuable course on logic. The book is endorsed by men like Bahnsen, Butler, Pratt, Trumper, Poythress, etc.
Here is one comment about the book:
The best "Reformed" contribution to the field of epistemology in many years. Frame builds upon the work of Cornelius Van Til to provide sound direction for postmodern times. This is an absolute "must read" for the thinking Christian.
-- The Discerning Reader.
Here is another:
My only regret about this book is that, most likely and most unfortunately, only those within the Reformed community will ever read it (or even hear about it)! I believe that Van Til's rich and profound thought suffered a similar fate. This is regrettable because Frame's work is so relevant for evangelicals today, esp. w/regard to epistemology and the task of theology in general, and it is so potentially fruitful!
Nevertheless, I hope it will be able to break out of the bounds of the relatively closed, if not somewhat incestuous dialogue w/in 'reformed circles', and flow into the broader evangelical community. With regard to those voices within the reformed dialogue who have rejected Frame's work as imprecise (demonstrating to me a failure to comprehend Frame, which is difficult to do, as he is very clear -- indeed, such out-of-hand rejection strikes me as a failure to even desire to comprehend), it is, in my opinion, precisely this sort of stale element that retards the continuing (and necessary) reformation of the church, and, of course, the reformed tradition itself. Frame's work in "The Doctrine of the Knowledge of God" should be given serious attention by all who would seek to be more faithful as theologians subject to the Lordship of Jesus Christ, whether professional, student or 'lay'
So, get the book, and see if you enjoy it. This is probably the most thourough book on Christian epistemology and I was wondering if fred knew of a more robust one?
-Paul
p.s., Mark, I loved your statements about the Bible! [/quote:87984ef92f]
Paul,
I understand your comments, and I guess I am biased because everywhere that I have ever seen Frame "refine" or "reform" it is always for the worse. Even his summaries of Van Til's thought are not nearly as good as Bahnsen.
I'm not against thinking or philosophy (I've read almost ever Greek and Latin philosopher at one time or another in the original), but I can't get on board with focusing on epistemology at the expense of the clear systematic truth of the Bible, that Frame obviously hates so much (i.e. let's get rid of the ordo).
Hey Paul -- by the way -- I like the new picture. Call me old fashioned, but I always feel closer to someone when I know what they look like. It's good to see you, paisan!
[Edited on 4-30-2004 by fredtgreco]
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