Is the "Eye of Providence" on the Dollar Bill a 2CV?

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Greetings!
Obviously, we (Americans at least) have all probably seen the weird "Eye of Providence" of the American One-Dollar note (I'll attach an image). Even as a younger child, I always felt this image to be uncomfortable due to it's awkward depiction of God as a polygon and eye. I had attempted to find a discussion on this issue on Puritan Board, but I didn't see any posts fully related to the topic.

According to the government, "In his design of the seal’s reverse, [Charles] Thomson retained the pyramid with the Eye of Providence in a triangle at the zenith and, as products of his Latin scholarship, introduced the mottos Annuit Coeptis (He [God] has favored our undertakings) over the eye and Novus Ordo Seclorum (A new order of the ages) beneath the pyramid." So this is trying to make an image of our God.

You see examples of this image also in Romish paintings (Pontormo's Supper at Emmaus), and there also no doubt the "all seeing eye" has lots of freemasonic ties as well.

From Westminster:
Question 109
What are the sins forbidden in the second commandment?
The sins forbidden in the second commandment are, all devising, (Numb. 15:39) counselling, (Deut. 13:6–8) commanding, (Hosea 5:11, Micah 6:16) using, (1 Kings 11:33, 1 Kings 12:33) and any wise approving, any religious worship not instituted by God himself; (Deut. 12:30–32) the making any representation of God, of all or of any of the three persons, either inwardly in our mind, or outwardly in any kind of image or likeness of any creature whatsoever; (Deut. 4:15–19, Acts 17:29, Rom. 1:21–23,25) all worshipping of it, (Dan. 3:18, Gal. 4:8) or God in it or by it; (Exod. 32:5) the making of any representation of feigned deities, (Exod. 32:8) and all worship of them, or service belonging to them, (1 Kings18:26,28, Isa. 65:11) all superstitious devices, (Acts 17:22, Col. 2:21–23) corrupting the worship of God, (Mal. 1:7–8,14) adding to it, or taking from it, (Deut. 4:2) whether invented and taken up of ourselves, (Ps. 106:39) or received by tradition from others, (Matt. 15:9) though under the title of antiquity, (1 Pet. 1:18) custom, (Jer. 44:17) devotion, (Isa. 65:3–5, Gal. 1:13–14) good intent, or any other pretence whatsoever; (1 Sam. 13:11–12, 1 Sam. 15:21) simony; (Acts 8:18) sacrilege; (Rom. 2:22, Mal. 3:8) all neglect, (Exod. 4:24–26) contempt, (Matt. 22:5, Mal. 1:7,13) hindering, (Matt. 23:13) and opposing the worship and ordinances which God hath appointed. (Acts 13:44–45, 1 Thess. 2:15–16)

Even if this symbol isn't a depiction of the God of the Bible, then it is still depicting and venerating another foreign omnipresent deity.

All this lead to the question, if this image is a violation of the second commandment, then how should we as individuals react? Should we change our conduct at all (such as avoiding the use of such notes)?
 

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Greetings!
Obviously, we (Americans at least) have all probably seen the weird "Eye of Providence" of the American One-Dollar note (I'll attach an image). Even as a younger child, I always felt this image to be uncomfortable due to it's awkward depiction of God as a polygon and eye. I had attempted to find a discussion on this issue on Puritan Board, but I didn't see any posts fully related to the topic.

According to the government, "In his design of the seal’s reverse, [Charles] Thomson retained the pyramid with the Eye of Providence in a triangle at the zenith and, as products of his Latin scholarship, introduced the mottos Annuit Coeptis (He [God] has favored our undertakings) over the eye and Novus Ordo Seclorum (A new order of the ages) beneath the pyramid." So this is trying to make an image of our God.

You see examples of this image also in Romish paintings (Pontormo's Supper at Emmaus), and there also no doubt the "all seeing eye" has lots of freemasonic ties as well.

From Westminster:
Question 109
What are the sins forbidden in the second commandment?
The sins forbidden in the second commandment are, all devising, (Numb. 15:39) counselling, (Deut. 13:6–8) commanding, (Hosea 5:11, Micah 6:16) using, (1 Kings 11:33, 1 Kings 12:33) and any wise approving, any religious worship not instituted by God himself; (Deut. 12:30–32) the making any representation of God, of all or of any of the three persons, either inwardly in our mind, or outwardly in any kind of image or likeness of any creature whatsoever; (Deut. 4:15–19, Acts 17:29, Rom. 1:21–23,25) all worshipping of it, (Dan. 3:18, Gal. 4:8) or God in it or by it; (Exod. 32:5) the making of any representation of feigned deities, (Exod. 32:8) and all worship of them, or service belonging to them, (1 Kings18:26,28, Isa. 65:11) all superstitious devices, (Acts 17:22, Col. 2:21–23) corrupting the worship of God, (Mal. 1:7–8,14) adding to it, or taking from it, (Deut. 4:2) whether invented and taken up of ourselves, (Ps. 106:39) or received by tradition from others, (Matt. 15:9) though under the title of antiquity, (1 Pet. 1:18) custom, (Jer. 44:17) devotion, (Isa. 65:3–5, Gal. 1:13–14) good intent, or any other pretence whatsoever; (1 Sam. 13:11–12, 1 Sam. 15:21) simony; (Acts 8:18) sacrilege; (Rom. 2:22, Mal. 3:8) all neglect, (Exod. 4:24–26) contempt, (Matt. 22:5, Mal. 1:7,13) hindering, (Matt. 23:13) and opposing the worship and ordinances which God hath appointed. (Acts 13:44–45, 1 Thess. 2:15–16)

Even if this symbol isn't a depiction of the God of the Bible, then it is still depicting and venerating another foreign omnipresent deity.

All this lead to the question, if this image is a violation of the second commandment, then how should we as individuals react? Should we change our conduct at all (such as avoiding the use of such notes)?
I won't comment on the moral aspect of this. But if someone has a problem with it, just go purely electronic with their money situation. That solves any moral issues involved. But did the Reformed Tradition in America ever bring this up, is my question?
I've never heard of it being a problem before. What about other currencies in the past, did they have similar images and if so what was the consensus then? Interesting question though.
 
I can't say I'm terribly comfortable with having that iconography on the dollar bill, but I don't have much choice about whether to give and receive dollars or not.
As we say in the United States, "if it bothers you, write to your congressman."
 
:2cents: The Jews brought Jesus a coin with Ceasar's image on it, Mark 12:15,16,17, which was intended to represent his supposed divine status. Such coins typically had the inscription CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI PATER PATRIAE, or, Caesar Augustus the divine, father of the nation. Yet Jesus didn't take issue with that aspect of the coinage, or suggest it should necessarily be avoided. So, my thought is that while such representations on legal tender is unfortunate, I didn't make it, yet I am more or less constrained to use it in various capacities in order to function within the civil society which providence has placed me in. Others' consciences may dictate otherwise. :2cents:
 
:2cents: The Jews brought Jesus a coin with Ceasar's image on it, Mark 12:15,16,17, which was intended to represent his supposed divine status. Such coins typically had the inscription CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI PATER PATRIAE, or, Caesar Augustus the divine, father of the nation. Yet Jesus didn't take issue with that aspect of the coinage, or suggest it should necessarily be avoided. So, my thought is that while such representations on legal tender is unfortunate, I didn't make it, yet I am more or less constrained to use it in various capacities in order to function within the civil society which providence has placed me in. Others' consciences may dictate otherwise. :2cents:
I was trying to remember this section of scripture but I am at work. Thanks.
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I can't say I'm terribly comfortable with having that iconography on the dollar bill, but I don't have much choice about whether to give and receive dollars or not.
As we say in the United States, "if it bothers you, write to your congressman."
I guess you can but good luck. An interesting aside, I don't think businesses in America can refuse legal tender even if it's a religious objection. Am I wrong there?
 
I was trying to remember this section of scripture but I am at work. Thanks.
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I guess you can but good luck. An interesting aside, I don't think businesses in America can refuse legal tender even if it's a religious objection. Am I wrong there?
sure they can. plenty of places are going cash-free. Legal tender just means the government has to accept it as payment of debt.
 
I'm a somewhat strict Q109-er when it comes to images, and even I would say this is a non-issue. As has been pointed out, render unto Caesar's what is Caesar's. If someone feels they need to go cash-free, or move to another country, more power to them. To the extent that anybody's listening to me, I'd point them to Jeremiah Burroughs and remind them that sometimes conscience needs to be adjusted, for it is not an infallible or overriding consideration.
 
I always thought that was like an eye of the illuminati. One world order type stuff. Free masons. I am glad to learn it is not that. Reading Latin probably would have helped.
 
If you have concerns, drop the dollar bill, and switch to coins and two dollar bills. The coins are available in two sizes and three designs.

And since most tills can't accommodate either the coins or the two dollar bills, you can get entertainment out of each transaction. (I did read recently on another site that BofA doesn't stock two dollar bills any more, so you might have to shop around for them.)
 
Anyone who has any issues with the $1 bills: message me and I’ll give you instructions on how to send them to me and I’ll take care of them for you.
 
Why distinguish between use and receive? If it's wrong, don't even receive it.
If it's wrong, the original poster violated board policy with the image he posted.

Anyone who has any issues with the $1 bills: message me and I’ll give you instructions on how to send them to me and I’ll take care of them for you.
Can't spare a $1.00 bill, but I do have a rough looking 10 ruble note I can send . Keeping the $3.00 bill, however.
 
I don't know the answer, but I found it interesting in Googling around that the eye is found on the seal of Princeton Seminary. I wonder if it has always been. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Princeton_Theological_Seminary_official_seal.png
Thankfully I believed they changed it since then.

:2cents: The Jews brought Jesus a coin with Ceasar's image on it, Mark 12:15,16,17, which was intended to represent his supposed divine status. Such coins typically had the inscription CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI PATER PATRIAE, or, Caesar Augustus the divine, father of the nation. Yet Jesus didn't take issue with that aspect of the coinage, or suggest it should necessarily be avoided. So, my thought is that while such representations on legal tender is unfortunate, I didn't make it, yet I am more or less constrained to use it in various capacities in order to function within the civil society which providence has placed me in. Others' consciences may dictate otherwise. :2cents:
Wow! I didn't realize they had those words inscribed in the coins. I learned something today, thanks for sharing!
Anyone who has any issues with the $1 bills: message me and I’ll give you instructions on how to send them to me and I’ll take care of them for you.
I'm selling 15 one dollar bills for 10 bucks! I know... Hard bargain...
 
Some states and cities have laws requiring merchants to accept cash, but there is no federal obligation.

Thanks Dr Duguid. I read that link and that makes sense. So a person could conceivably, if they had a problem with it (but that would look pretty suspicious to be honest) could work out other forms of payment (bartering for instance).
Don't you think most people would be pretty suspicious of that person though? I mean a criminal may not want to use cash because it's traceable to the store. Just thinking out loud, I'm obsessed with those how crime is done videos on YouTube, so my mind immediately goes there.
 
Thanks Dr Duguid. I read that link and that makes sense. So a person could conceivably, if they had a problem with it (but that would look pretty suspicious to be honest) could work out other forms of payment (bartering for instance).
Don't you think most people would be pretty suspicious of that person though? I mean a criminal may not want to use cash because it's traceable to the store. Just thinking out loud, I'm obsessed with those how crime is done videos on YouTube, so my mind immediately goes there.
I've stayed in a large Hyatt hotel that was cashless. There are a number of purported benefits, including security, efficiency, streamlining processes, and cost-savings.
 
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