I am not saying it cannot be criticized, but the book is about a man who destroyed someone else's sex robot and was then put on trial for murder (speaking to the direction of insanity that society is headed). It still may not be an appropriate topic, but we should not straw man either.
I have read what Doug Wilson says and I find nothing wrong with his speech. Most of it is cited maliciously with the direct intent of misrepresenting what he says, and his biggest critics are not our friends.
You shouldnt be so shocked.... "Machen himself believed that the church should be intolerant. But the kind of intolerance he advocated was theological, not political. He believed that the church’s primary task was to proclaim the Gospel, and that this task required careful attention to theology. In fact, the Presbyterian Church’s witness was circumscribed by the Westminster Confession. A Presbyterian minister’s ordination vows prohibited him from preaching anything contrary to the confession. But when it came to public matters, Machen recommended the course of civil liberty." https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/j-gresham-machen-the-politically-incorrect-fundamentalist/
Respectfully, I don't believe this is an accurate assessment of patriarchy and the "ism" that is associated with it. Yes, it bristles the modern mind, but it can and very often is practiced by men and women with reverence and love for the Lord. Complementarianism is said to be the via media between egalitarianism and patriarchalism, yet it seems to be failing. Those who count themselves as hard complementarians are probably more closely aligned with a patriarchal view. Just because something has been abused, doesn't mean it is actually rotten in its true form and core.
Well here you are interacting with people who oppose Aimee Byrd and who oppose Doug Wilson. Now what will you do? Seriously, no one is saying not to address the culture. What we are saying and at least what I am saying that since 2005 I have studied Doug Wilson, and over that time he has only proven himself to be a false teacher, a deceiver, a divider, one who speaks out of both sides of his mouth, someone who poses as a minister but is not one, someone who engages culture and that many YRR types love but not with the means that God has given us but those things that seem 'cool' 'awesome' and attract attention. Those who continually defend him, espouse him, etc. are breaking God's commandment. The Lord says, "Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple."
We are not dealing with a civil liberty scenario. We are dealing with a total global takeover of a homogenized antichrist culture. They're taking kids and cutting off their genitals and removing custody from parents who stop them. They are now buying up all the world's farmland and homes.
White makes me sad.
And you dont see how the essentials can be compromised?
This reminds me when you started kicking people out of the covenanters facebook group who so much as mentioned Doug Wilson, and when confronted about it were told "do your own research."
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Exactly. False equivalency. I can cringe at GC and DW and still consider AB wholly disqualified as a biblical instructor/expositor. There's no team or side.
Exactly what has been said about the PCA for 10 years and we have been told not to worry and to stay focused.
Still seems good to me. He clarified the comments on this video as well, on the next one he put up.
I think others could speak about that trajectory and the various variables at play. Im sure you are simplifying things to make your case, not purposely .....
He got too fixated on the culture wars, among other things.
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Can you expand? I speak as one troubled by Wilson but I realise my knowledge of the situation is limited. Feel free to discuss the relationship between Wilson and Sitler; keep to the moderators requests though.
Final comment, because I realize mine are more about White, but I think one of the reasons all this CRT nonsense is cropping up is because not enough churches are addressing the culture war. The worldly culture is winning and many churches are turning woke. To me, he seems to be doing both. Talking about the culture and still doing good apologetics.He got too fixated on the culture wars, among other things.
Which, to my mind, is what brought him into co-belligerency with DW. (See? I brought it back to topic.
I've done worse things in groups than think...
Exactly right. If anyone is mad that a guy who is Federal Vision adjacent is becoming popular addressing the culture wars, let that be a rebuke on the rest of the reformed world for not doing it.
I'm very much involved in the culture war.
