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"Whatever weirdo loser!"How do you respond to bone headed statements like, "I'm not a Calvinist or Arminian but a biblicists!"
My response is definitely more valuable and effective than John's . . . objectively.
is all this stuff "mocking"?
How do you respond to bone headed statements like, "I'm not a Calvinist or Arminian but a biblicists!"
(1Co 2:9) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
(1Co 2:10) But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
(1Co 2:11) For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
(1Co 2:12) Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
(1Co 2:13) Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
(1Co 2:14) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
How do you respond to bone headed statements like, "I'm not a Calvinist or Arminian but a biblicists!"
This reminds me of the discussion between Charles Simeon and John Wesley. I would be like Simeon and ask a series of questions and then prove that the were either an Arminian or a Calvinist.
Sir, I understand that you are called an Arminian; and I have been sometimes called a Calvinist; and therefore I suppose we are to draw daggers. But before I consent to begin the combat, with your permission I will ask you a few questions. Pray, Sir, do you feel yourself a depraved creature, so depraved that you would never have thought of turning to God, if God had not first put it into your heart?
Yes, I do indeed.
And do you utterly despair of recommending yourself to God by anything you can do; and look for salvation solely through the blood and righteousness of Christ?
Yes, solely through Christ.
But, Sir, supposing you were at first saved by Christ, are you not somehow or other to save yourself afterwards by your own works?
No, I must be saved by Christ from first to last.
Allowing, then, that you were first turned by the grace of God, are you not in some way or other to keep yourself by your own power?
No.
What then, are you to be upheld every hour and every moment by God, as much as an infant in its mother's arms?
Yes, altogether.
And is all your hope in the grace and mercy of God to preserve you unto His heavenly kingdom?
Yes, I have no hope but in Him.
Then, Sir, with your leave I will put up my dagger again; for this is all my Calvinism; this is my election my justification by faith, my final perseverance: it is in substance all that I hold, and as I hold it; and therefore, if you please, instead of searching out terms and phrases to be a ground of contention between us, we will cordially unite in those things where in we agree.
for this is all my Calvinism
This reminds me of the discussion between Charles Simeon and John Wesley. I would be like Simeon and ask a series of questions and then prove that the were either an Arminian or a Calvinist.
This reminds me of the discussion between Charles Simeon and John Wesley. I would be like Simeon and ask a series of questions and then prove that the were either an Arminian or a Calvinist.
How do you respond to bone headed statements like, "I'm not a Calvinist or Arminian but a biblicists!"
[Normally I just smile or chuckle.]
Thanks,
jm
This reminds me of the discussion between Charles Simeon and John Wesley. I would be like Simeon and ask a series of questions and then prove that the were either an Arminian or a Calvinist.
I think this is entirely the wrong approach. There are millions of Christians who are neither Calvinist nor Arminian.
You could point out that there is at least one more option out there: Pelagian.
Seriously, if they claim to be "biblicists," then they should have no problem walking through a chapter of Scripture like Romans 9 or John 6 with you and submit to its teachings.
Of course, "biblicist" is a nonsensical term and prejudiced term to begin with. Everyone in these discussions claims to use the Bible. They don't have a market on that. What they fail to realize is the framework through which they are interpreting the Scriptures.
This sounds like the position of people who follow Hank Hanegraaff.