20th/21st March 2020 Debate on paedo-baptism coming up

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Catechised in Heidelberg

Catechised in Heidelberg

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Hey guys,

I was just watching the newest DividingLine (30th January) and James White announced that on 20th/21st March this year there will be a debate, mainly on paedo-baptism, between him and Doug Wilson in Moscow, Idaho.
Apparently, it will be a broader discussion, meaning also on paedo-communion. They don't know yet, weather this will be streamed but I thought this might be interesting for some of you.

Blessings
 
Doug Wilson accurately represent faithful, confessional, covenant household baptism? It will be a good day when the church is done with pop theology.
 
And... James White is also taking the position that Wilson's position is more consistent than Presbyterians. I admittedly will watch it to see what is covered, but seeing as NAPARC condemned Federal Vision, I hope no one is thinking Doug Wilson speaks for Presbyterians.
 
Disappointing as it might bring more people into the way of thinking that to embrace paedobaptism you should embrace paedocommunion. I also like listening to White but I don't know that's he's even (LBCF) confessional on covenant theology.
 
Jeri Tanner said:
Doug Wilson accurately represent faithful, confessional, covenant household baptism? It will be a good day when the church is done with pop theology.
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Do you own a copy of "The Case for Covenantal Infant Baptism" edited by Gregg Strawbridge? Take a look at the list of contributors in the index. I find the list of authors fascinating.

[Edit: just so there is no confusion I don't believe D. Wilson represents the Presbyterian position...moreover, I don't believe he thinks he does either. The book above is from 2003...I imagine if a similar book was published today several of those listed in the index wouldn't even be asked to contribute to it. Certainly not a book published by P&R I would hope.]
 
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BLM said:
Do you own a copy of "The Case for Covenantal Infant Baptism" edited by Gregg Strawbridge? Take a look at the list of contributors in the index. I find the list of authors fascinating.

[Edit: just so there is no confusion I don't believe D. Wilson represents the Presbyterian position...moreover, I don't believe he thinks he does either. The book above is from 2003...I imagine if a similar book was published today a third of those listed in the index wouldn't even be approached by P&R.]
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I don’t have that book, want to share the list of contributors?
 
On James White's 'Dividing Line' January 28, he made some brief comments about the "Doug Wilson derangement syndrome material from Facebook and Twitter." Perhaps some have gone overboard in their criticisms but I for one have serious concerns about Doug Wilson's theology. I came away quite disappointed in how James White handled this on his Dividing Line.

Further, James White could find someone better (and someone more faithful to the Westminster Standards) with which to debate Baptism.
 
BayouHuguenot said:
I actually don't engage him on twitter when I see him defending Wilsonism. I just....don't go there. Too much respect for White on issues like KJVonlism and Mormons. I don't want to find myself blocked.
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Actually I’ve never been that impressed with him on KJV onlyism. Sure, he attacks the low hanging fruit well, but rarely engages with more serious proponents of the KJV/TR.
 
BayouHuguenot said:
I actually don't engage him on twitter when I see him defending Wilsonism. I just....don't go there.
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As I am sure you know my comment was 'tongue in cheek'. I am a little unsure though what he defends about 'Wilsonism'. Does he defend the idea that Wilson belongs in the Reformed camp, or is he simply defending Wilson against some of the more extreme comments on twitter?
 
Stephen L Smith said:
On James White's 'Dividing Line' January 28, he made some brief comments about the "Doug Wilson derangement syndrome material from Facebook and Twitter." Perhaps some have gone overboard in their criticisms but I for one have serious concerns about Doug Wilson's theology. I came away quite disappointed in how James White handled this on his Dividing Line.

Further, James White could find someone better (and someone more faithful to the Westminster Standards) with which to debate Baptism.
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Maybe he doesn't want anyone better because some say he has gotten trounced in past debates already on the topic. I say this as a baptist.
 
BayouHuguenot said:
I actually don't engage him on twitter when I see him defending Wilsonism. I just....don't go there. Too much respect for White on issues like KJVonlism and Mormons. I don't want to find myself blocked.
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Any defense of the TR = "King James Onlyism" to White.

That is when I really stopped liking him, watching him attack many brothers who assert that the Scripture have been kept pure through the ages.

I am with Milne on this one.
 
Pergamum said:
Any defense of the TR = "King James Onlyism" to White.

That is when I really stopped liking him, watching him attack many brothers who assert that the Scripture have been kept pure through the ages.

I am with Milne on this one.
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My take on it is this: the KJV is a near-perfect moment of the English language. That said, language changes and new translations are needed and there are variants within the Masoretic Text which the DSS shed light on.
 
BayouHuguenot said:
My take on it is this: the KJV is a near-perfect moment of the English language. That said, language changes and new translations are needed and there are variants within the Masoretic Text which the DSS shed light on.
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That sounds reasonable.

Do you have any book recommendations or blogs to point me to for further research?

I want to avoid James White because I don't think he has treated the TR advocates fairly, but there are also Ruckmanites and crazies out there as well. I do like Maurice Robinson and Dean Burgon.
 
I recall White saying, more than once, I believe, that he never seeks out debates on paedobaptism.

Did he suspend that practice, or did Wilson initiate this?
 
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