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R. C. Sproul answers this question:
Renewing Your Mind (Dr. R.C. Sproul) - Broadcast Archives
Renewing Your Mind (Dr. R.C. Sproul) - Broadcast Archives
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What's the short answer....
What's the short answer....
I listened to it last week and if I remember correctly he said that we should tell people that God loves all those that repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. So in that sense, God's love is conditional. He said if we just tell people that God unconditionally loves them then they will never see their need for faith and repentance.
None of the 'call to repentance' sermons in the New Testament are framed around the message of God's Love.
I do the "brutally direct" thing. Christ is a rock of offense and a stumbling block to the damned. The gospel is always unproductive with them. Paul called out to the philosophers on Mars Hill, told them about this "unknown God", and told them He commands all men everywhere to repent. Pretty brutally direct. Some mocked, but others wanted to know more....I do have sympathy as it is a really difficult subject to discusss with non believers, if we are brutally direct in our answer we do risk offending unbelievers in a very unproductive way.
I found the answer in the talk to be slightly unsatisfying as he based his position on what seemed to be a hyper-common grace position.
I do have sympathy as it is a really difficult subject to discusss with non believers, if we are brutally direct in our answer we do risk offending unbelievers in a very unproductive way.
In my mind it is much better to save our powder for arguing that they are sinners and for that reason they have no right to be loved by God than by denying that God loves them, after all we do not know who the elect are.
I do think that we should avoid making bold and incorrect statements like Christ dies for all individually or that God loves the reprobate, but that does not mean that we should trumpet the opposite.
Remember guys, Sproul didn't frame the question. It was asked at the Ligonier Conference (I believe) and he was doing his best to answer it within the context of the question.
He wasn't necessarily endorsing going around saying whether we should or shouldn't tell people that God loves them.
Guys, the thrust of the thread is unfair to Sproul. He did NOT say that you should tell people that God loves them unconditionally. In fact, he said that this was an incorrect approach to evangelism. Not only did he not frame the question, he did not answer it in any way other than a Reformed manner.
He did (as R.C. likes to do), go into the background of standard Reformed teaching on God's love: 1. Love of Benevolence; 2. Love of Beneficence; 3. Love of Complacency (e.g., God's love for Jesus). He admits that God "loves" his creation (including unbelievers) in a common grace sense only. But, if you listen to his tape, he does NOT say what some are assuming (evidently without listening to it) that he says.
Some on PB deny the validity of common grace. You will be offended by R.C.'s answer. However, if you accept common grace, his answer is neither unbiblical nor unconfessional. God does not love the unbeliever in the sense that he does the believer. The unbeliever, he avers, is subject to the wrath of God. Their only share in God's love is limited to his rain falling on the just and the unjust alike.
When it comes to a universal offer, R.C. still holds to a limited atonement. The offer of the Gospel is extended to unbelievers, but only those who believe and receive it are people for whom Christ died.