We have discussed this topic in other threads. I understood what you were saying.I'm not blurring anything. And as far as I know there's no debate in this thread. It was simply a friendly reminded that Presbyterians believe in Believer's Baptism. It is a misrepresentation of the Reformed Paedobaptist position to say otherwise. Nonetheless, it's not a big deal. I was being playful, and didn't intend to hijack Ivan's thread.