Who is your favorite Arminian preacher/teacher

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  1. Jon 316

    Jon 316 Puritan Board Sophomore

    Come on admit it, we all have them. You know what I mean, those books which are stashed in the bottom shelf or perhaps behind your Berkhof and Institutes.

    Perhaps I am just revealing my unreformed areas of my life, but I happen to enjoy the works of... (In no particular order)

    A.W Tozer
    Andrew Murray
    John Wesley
    Watchman Nee
    R.A Torrey
    David Pawson
    Leonard Ravenhill
    David Wilkerson

    Honest I am a Calvinist...I really am... :eek:
     
  2. uberkermit

    uberkermit Puritan Board Freshman

    For me, it would have to be John R. Rice. He wrote a tract that the Lord graciously used in order to convert me. Someone had thrown it out in a landfill site where I worked, I picked it up, and not long after was a believer.

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    I would add that though the Lord used this man in my conversion, I do not follow any of his teaching or preaching materials today. He was very much an anti-Calvinist, as evidenced by some materials he published on the subject. That said, it matters not so much to me who the Lord used as an instrument in my salvation, but that he did it in the first place.
     
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  3. Scott1

    Scott1 Puritan Board Doctor

    Your point is well taken. There are many brothers and sisters in Christ who believe or assume Arminian influenced theology.

    However, I'm reflecting on whether we ought laud or disparage men so much with polls. We do, in the reformed theology, follow God, trying not to be undue followers of men or teachers, i.e. "respecters of persons."

    A couple of the people on your list, such as Mr Nee, have some very serious doctrine and legacy error, and might not be rightly grouped together with others.

    Those are problems with popularity "lists."
     
  4. Marrow Man

    Marrow Man Drunk with Powder

    You didn't mention Billy Graham...

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  5. Jon 316

    Jon 316 Puritan Board Sophomore

    Man, I have a book of his called 'the soul winners fire'.
     
  6. TaylorOtwell

    TaylorOtwell Puritan Board Junior

    I really have a hard time benefiting from that type of preaching anymore. I used to be into almost all of the teachers you listed, but they all share the Keswick/"Higher Life" mentality of the Christian life, instead one that is more rooted in Word and Sacrament. Personally, I have spent a lot of time recovering from their teaching, by God's grace.
     
  7. Marrow Man

    Marrow Man Drunk with Powder

    John Frame once wrote that he rather sit under the preaching of a good Arminian than a bad Calvinist!
     
  8. shackleton

    shackleton Puritan Board Junior

    WOW! I guess that is what you would call providence.
     
  9. MrMerlin777

    MrMerlin777 Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    I kinda like Oswald Chambers. I've found his My Utmost for His Highest useful in years past. I don't think he was Calvinistic.
     
  10. TaylorOtwell

    TaylorOtwell Puritan Board Junior

    I'm not sure I understand that statement. I assume he is talking about the level of passion? As in a fiery Arminian vs. a cold Calvinist.

    If so, it seems to me like they are saying they would rather hear passionate, bad theology rather than "cold", orthodox theology. It doesn't matter how fiery the preaching is, Arminianism is a ditch.
     
  11. Hamalas

    Hamalas whippersnapper

    C.S. Lewis, hands down! :book2:
     
  12. Jon 316

    Jon 316 Puritan Board Sophomore

    heh folks,

    my list was not exaustive.. just some of the guys I like. The key question was who do people like.

    I havnt lumped them together for any other reason than 1) they are all arminian 2) I like some of their teaching.


    There are dangers in some of these guys teachings, however potentially you could say that about all arminian theology since ultimately it will put some burden of justiufication or sanctification upon the believer??
     
  13. Marrow Man

    Marrow Man Drunk with Powder

    He meant it in the sense that much of Arminian preaching is not "doctrinal" preaching, per se. That is, good Arminian preachers don't make it a point to specifically get on an Arminian hobby horse and preach that way. Many are faithful to the specific text they are preaching on, and their faulty soteriology does not necessarily get in the way.
     
  14. TaylorOtwell

    TaylorOtwell Puritan Board Junior

    Yes, I would say that about all Arminian theology.
     
  15. PresbyDane

    PresbyDane Puritanboard Doctor

    Jon316 with these kind of threads you have me :gpl: you.
     
  16. Zenas

    Zenas Snow Miser

    C.S. Lewis
     
  17. I'd just go right for the root. If I have to choose listening to someone mess up the Gospel - I'd just simply go with the Devil.

    The Devil is the best Arminian preacher. He's been MOST used by God.
     
  18. Jon 316

    Jon 316 Puritan Board Sophomore

    While this is true, to a point. It does not change the fact that many arminians have been deeply used of God. Many of their works are rich and insightful. etc etc

    -----Added 2/19/2009 at 06:25:59 EST-----

    lol whatever do you mean?
     
  19. ManleyBeasley

    ManleyBeasley Puritan Board Junior

    I think this is being defined a little too much as a dichotomy when it is more like a continuum. Especially in reference to the 20th century there are many preachers (including some mentioned on this thread) who would not agree with Calvinism in an abstract sense but taught Calvinistically in much of their practical teaching. This may have been contradiction in them but it still meant they could be godly and actually teach some true doctrine.

    On that basis I have benefited from

    1. CS Lewis
    2. Paris Reidhead
    3. Leonard Ravenhill
    4. A.W. Tozer
     
  20. Jimmy the Greek

    Jimmy the Greek Puritan Board Senior

    I would have to list C.S. Lewis and A. W. Tozer.
     
  21. LeeJUk

    LeeJUk Puritan Board Junior

    Leonard Ravenhill no competition.

    I really like Tozer too but dunno ravenhill's preaching was a bit more fired up and Tozer's mysticism angle I can't agree with.

    Though if I remember correctly reading Paris reidhead's website he is leaning towards Calvinism but I dont think he taught it much and Leonard Ravenhill, he wasn't a Calvinist but I heard him preach for a few minutes on the fact that it is God's action that saved you before you chose him.
     
  22. Hamalas

    Hamalas whippersnapper

    :agree:
     
  23. Jon 316

    Jon 316 Puritan Board Sophomore

    Lee! :welcome:

    fellow renfrewshireite ;)

    -----Added 2/19/2009 at 06:33:07 EST-----

    :ditto:
     
  24. CatechumenPatrick

    CatechumenPatrick Puritan Board Freshman

    Arminius, Oden, Wesley, Miley, Burt are often helpful.
     
  25. Jon 316

    Jon 316 Puritan Board Sophomore

    hmm I only really know about Wesley. though I'm assuming Arminius is THEE arminius... I never thought of actually reading his stuff hmmm food for thought. :think:
     
  26. PresbyDane

    PresbyDane Puritanboard Doctor

    C.S. Lewis
     
  27. Theognome

    Theognome Burrito Bill

    Hank Hanegraff is pretty hilarious.

    theognome
     
  28. moral necessity

    moral necessity Puritan Board Junior

    Yeah, Arminius really seems like a likable guy, from what I've read of him. He was mainly trying to be true to his understanding before the Lord with what scripture said, and seemed very sincere and loving towards those that differed. He just didn't want to sign off on a theology that he thought took excessive straining to deduce from scripture. I have his 3-volume set of works, and enjoy reading his perspective at times, even though I disagree with his conclusions. So, he gets my vote.
     
  29. Hippo

    Hippo Puritan Board Junior

    H A Ironside

    I love this guys teaching, the way he rips into the Holiness movement and the concept of Christian perfection is still thrilling to me.

    I was very saddened to see how he attempted to undermine Pink's preaching whne I read Pink's biography.
     
  30. CatechumenPatrick

    CatechumenPatrick Puritan Board Freshman

    William Pope Burt's Compendium of Christian Theology: Here

    John Miley's Systematic isn't online, and though it is hard to find, it is probably the best Arminian systematic. (Thomas) Oden is a "post-conservative" arminian theologian. He is one of the better arminian scholars writing today. Once and a while I'll check ebay for cheap usd copies of their books.
    For some reason many of the classic works in arminian theology have not been reprinted and are rare, if not impossible except in select libraries, to obtain. I've alwayed wondered whether arminian theologians (or theologically adept lay-people) worry at the ever-rising increase in Reformed reprints (on top of the thousands of works we already have easy access to), compared to the huge lack of arminian theologial works avaliable.
     
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