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Anyone familiar with these guys? Wow, it looks like all the great Calvinists were unsaved!
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Originally posted by maxdetail
Have nothing to do with them.
Originally posted by Draught Horse
Don't worry--everybody is a heretic to these guys. Ha, they even accused John Robbins at one time of being compromising the doctrine!
Originally posted by Me Died Blue
It is simply another one of the various scattered hyper-Calvinist groups out there.
Originally posted by Draught Horse
Don't worry--everybody is a heretic to these guys. Ha, they even accused John Robbins at one time of being compromising the doctrine!
Now that is funny.
"Does this sound like the John Robbins you have read? It certainly didn't sound like the John Robbins I had read; I was floored. It sounded like Van Til!"
Welcome Dr. Robbins, you Van Tilian you, you're finally a member of your own club!
Originally posted by maxdetail
I know that Dan. I'm just saying, no one should even look at their website. No one should even repeat the name of the site. In fact, don't even say any of the words that make up their name. Don't say 'outside', don't say 'camp', don't even say 'out'. If you must say 'the' then go wash is the Jordan river 7 times after you do. And if you think someone is going to say the name it would be better to puncture your ear drums with an anthrax infected pencil than to hear the vile name repeated. That's all I'm saying Dan.
Originally posted by Draught Horse
So if my options are:
1)Drinking Miller High Life
OR
2) Visiting OTC
What do you say?
Originally posted by crhoades
Originally posted by Draught Horse
So if my options are:
1)Drinking Miller High Life
OR
2) Visiting OTC
What do you say?
That's tough...maybe if I stall long enough, we'll be raptured out of here and I won't have to decide...
Don't worry. I'm laughed at and mocked for my love of this brew. It's cheap and good...not great, but it beats paying a lot for something else.Originally posted by Draught Horse
Originally posted by crhoades
Originally posted by Draught Horse
So if my options are:
1)Drinking Miller High Life
OR
2) Visiting OTC
What do you say?
That's tough...maybe if I stall long enough, we'll be raptured out of here and I won't have to decide...
Okay, this needs to stop! Miller High Life is not that bad a beer! In a bottle, it is quite good.
I know that Dan. I'm just saying, no one should even look at their website. No one should even repeat the name of the site. In fact, don't even say any of the words that make up their name. Don't say 'outside', don't say 'camp', don't even say 'out'. If you must say 'the' then go wash is the Jordan river 7 times after you do. And if you think someone is going to say the name it would be better to puncture your ear drums with an anthrax infected pencil than to hear the vile name repeated. That's all I'm saying Dan.
Originally posted by Craig
Don't worry. I'm laughed at and mocked for my love of this brew. It's cheap and good...not great, but it beats paying a lot for something else.Originally posted by Draught Horse
Originally posted by crhoades
Originally posted by Draught Horse
So if my options are:
1)Drinking Miller High Life
OR
2) Visiting OTC
What do you say?
That's tough...maybe if I stall long enough, we'll be raptured out of here and I won't have to decide...
Okay, this needs to stop! Miller High Life is not that bad a beer! In a bottle, it is quite good.
Miller High Life is truly, "The champagne of beers".
Originally posted by Jeff_Bartel
I understand that there are many on this board who do not care for Robbins, and in fact are very Van-Tillian (anti-Robbins), but let's be fair. Lumping Robbins and OTC together is hasty In my humble opinion.
OTC is:
1)not part of a respectable denomination
2)not ordained
3)to my knowledge not educated
Robbins is:
1)until recently a member and part of a respectable denomination
2)ordained and licensed to preach by the PCA
3)has a doctorate in Philosophy and Political Theory, served as an aid to a memeber of Congress and has taught at Harvard University, the University of Colorado, the University of Texas, Biola University, Sangre de Cristo Seminary, College of the Southwest, Westminster Seminary, Western Reformed Seminary, and Chesapeake Seminary.
You may not agree with everything that Robbins teaches (I don't either), and that is ok, but these two are miles apart. I also understand that Carpenter wrote a couple of articles for Trinity, but people do change. I think that Robbins would most likely endorse the judgment of OTC made by people on this board.
I don't wish this to be a Robbins/Van-Til bash, but let's give credit where credit is due. We can read Calvin, Knox, Owen and Luther where they are harsh as can be, and be just fine with it, but when somebody contemporary is the same, everyone's a critic.
P.S. I am NOT lumping Robbins in with Calvin, Knox etc. etc. and I also think that OTC has gone off the deep end.
That's my
Originally posted by Jeff_Bartel
I understand that there are many on this board who do not care for Robbins, and in fact are very Van-Tillian (anti-Robbins), but let's be fair. Lumping Robbins and OTC together is hasty In my humble opinion.
OTC is:
1)not part of a respectable denomination
2)not ordained
3)to my knowledge not educated
Robbins is:
1)until recently a member and part of a respectable denomination
2)ordained and licensed to preach by the PCA
3)has a doctorate in Philosophy and Political Theory, served as an aid to a memeber of Congress and has taught at Harvard University, the University of Colorado, the University of Texas, Biola University, Sangre de Cristo Seminary, College of the Southwest, Westminster Seminary, Western Reformed Seminary, and Chesapeake Seminary.
You may not agree with everything that Robbins teaches (I don't either), and that is ok, but these two are miles apart. I also understand that Carpenter wrote a couple of articles for Trinity, but people do change. I think that Robbins would most likely endorse the judgment of OTC made by people on this board.
I don't wish this to be a Robbins/Van-Til bash, but let's give credit where credit is due. We can read Calvin, Knox, Owen and Luther where they are harsh as can be, and be just fine with it, but when somebody contemporary is the same, everyone's a critic.
P.S. I am NOT lumping Robbins in with Calvin, Knox etc. etc. and I also think that OTC has gone off the deep end.
That's my
Originally posted by maxdetail
Jacob, I sense I touched a tender spot when I dissed your beloved Miller. You have stuck to your guns even when I tried to shame you with hyperbole. Good for you, I would expect nothing less from someone so single-minded, sensible and resolute.
I respect any company that brews beer, even Miller and Bud. But in this brave new world of micro-brews and crafters that are out to capture the TRUE european traditions and flavors - in a world where real trappist ales can be bought in the tiniest burgs of America - where some brewers are innovating in ways that are creating flavors unsurpassed in all of earths history - then drinking Miller is like going into a warehouse filled with all the great puritan writings and walking out with a six-pack of Max Lucado.
We stand in the midst of a new and glorious golden age of malt and hops and God is sending forth new wine.... which is really..... beer. Drink deep of this blessing, oh rapture, oh joy, oh rats, I'm out of beer.
So if my options are:
1)Drinking Miller High Life
OR
2) Visiting OTC
What do you say?
Originally posted by maxdetail
Jacob, I sense I touched a tender spot when I dissed your beloved Miller. You have stuck to your guns even when I tried to shame you with hyperbole. Good for you, I would expect nothing less from someone so single-minded, sensible and resolute.
I respect any company that brews beer, even Miller and Bud. But in this brave new world of micro-brews and crafters that are out to capture the TRUE european traditions and flavors - in a world where real trappist ales can be bought in the tiniest burgs of America - where some brewers are innovating in ways that are creating flavors unsurpassed in all of earths history - then drinking Miller is like going into a warehouse filled with all the great puritan writings and walking out with a six-pack of Max Lucado.
We stand in the midst of a new and glorious golden age of malt and hops and God is sending forth new wine.... which is really..... beer. Drink deep of this blessing, oh rapture, oh joy, oh rats, I'm out of beer.