What do you think about global warming?

Discussion in 'Natural Revelation and God's Creation' started by Blue Tick, Apr 22, 2009.

  1. Don’t really care about it.

    10 vote(s)
  2. Not sure there is a clear science on the topic.

    21 vote(s)
  3. I’m a radical and I’m rationing toilet paper to one sleeve per day!

    2 vote(s)
  4. Global warming is real but is most likely caused by sun flares.

    7 vote(s)
  5. Global warming is a complete farce and is only caused by natural conditions.

    41 vote(s)
  6. I like my V8 truck!

    14 vote(s)
  7. We should be good stewards of the earth and exercise dominion over creation.

    60 vote(s)
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  1. Blue Tick

    Blue Tick Puritan Board Graduate

    Inspired by this article.

    What do you think about global warming?
    The problem I have with the global warming issue is it always seems to have a left of left bent and I should apologize for being a person.
  2. Whitefield

    Whitefield Puritan Board Junior

    Bad science.
  3. Herald

    Herald Moderator Staff Member

    At best I believe the evidence for man made global warming is inconclusive. When the scientific community engages in smear tactics against opposing views, as is done with the evolution debate, they lose all cedibility In my humble opinion.
  4. Skyler

    Skyler Puritan Board Graduate

    Global warming is real. I know because it's warmer today than it was two weeks ago.

    ...but I'm personally convinced that it has its root in mainly natural causes. While our actions do have an effect on the environment, I think that natural disasters like volcanos do a whole lot more than we do.
  5. SRoper

    SRoper Puritan Board Graduate

    I think climate change is almost certainly real, very possibly influenced by man, and it's totally unknown whether we can realistically do anything to reverse it. Our resources would be much better spent adapting.
  6. coramdeo

    coramdeo Puritan Board Sophomore

    mico vs. macro

    We should, of course be good stewards of what God has given us.

    We do have some effect on our local environment on a mico level ie. smog in big cities, etc. However since one good volcano can produce more "pollution" than man in all of history, I doubt we have too much effect on God's design.:2cents:
  7. PuritanCovenanter

    PuritanCovenanter Moderator Staff Member

    I voted 5 and 7.
  8. shackleton

    shackleton Puritan Board Junior

    We should be good stewards but I think it is just a natural pattern. Even the atheist scientists state emphatically that even if there is "global warming" there will still be another ice age.

    Besides, if we are all evolving won't better people just rise up who can live in these hot environments?
  9. Curt

    Curt Puritan Board Graduate

    Who knows what the optimum temperature is for the earth?
  10. brianeschen

    brianeschen Puritan Board Junior

    That's right. We should remember that it's not "global warming" anymore . . . it's "climate change." That leaves enough room just in case things start cooling off again.:rolleyes:
  11. VictorBravo

    VictorBravo Administrator Staff Member

    My only consistently recurring thought on the subject:

    When they outlaw global warming only outlaws will be warm.
  12. Rogerant

    Rogerant Puritan Board Freshman

    The scientific evidence supporting "man made" global warming seems iffy at best to me. I tend to trust in empirical evidence, that is the "Word". My exegesis would conclude that whenever famine, hail, drought, plagues, earthquakes etc. came upon the earth is that it had something to do with God's anger towards sin. The only solution that man could affect these conditions was to repent and to return to the Lord and His ways. No where can I find in the Scriptures does it state that when we are in this predicament are we to extinguish burnt offerings or to replace our menstrual cloths or diapers with recycled papyrus. Nor do I see a precedent for placing quotas on herds of methane gas producing oxen and sheep to appease God's wrath. Earth Day is the environmentalists day of atonement and the smart car is their phylactery.

    Just my not so humble opinion.

    "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptable God into an image made like to corruptable man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts and creeping things...who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen"
  13. kvanlaan

    kvanlaan Puritan Board Doctor

    The apex of narcissism.

    If they want people to be 'green', they should look at Puritan farmers. Stewardship was very important to them and excess was a sin.
  14. Repre5entYHWH

    Repre5entYHWH Puritan Board Freshman

    i think it proves how bad historical science is (evolution) :rolleyes:
  15. SolaScriptura

    SolaScriptura Puritanboard Softy

    :think: :lol:
  16. LawrenceU

    LawrenceU Puritan Board Doctor

    Man caused Global Warming, or Climate Change as they have taken to calling it, is a ploy to subjugate men and nations to increasing government and international control. There is a reason that Communists almost as a movement shifted to the 'green' camp with the fall of the Soviet Union.

    Global warming and cooling does happen, but it is of natural occurrence. To think that puny man can do such damage to the earth is laughable. All of the green house gases introduced into the atmosphere since the Industrial Revolution do not even rate to the amount spewed out by a moderate volcanic eruption.
  17. Richard King

    Richard King Puritan Board Senior

    I think there is slight of hand going on and mostly the talk of temp control
    is more about control than it is about temperature.

    I think carbon dioxide is plant food. Plant something.

    I have found some interesting comments to consider here:

    American Thinker: UFOs and AGW
  18. EricP

    EricP Puritan Board Freshman

    global warming/ozone holes/coming ice age/radon gas

    Advancing years (and a subscription to Time in the 70's) does allow for some perspective on some things. Having tinkered in "hard science" a while ago, sometimes its hard for non-tinkerers to see how much non-scientific agenda-making goes into some of these passing future shock like catastrophes. Today's less than universal global warming bandwagon riding has huge financial, social, and political underpinnings--for example, if you are a hard working climate scientist who is trying to do research that happens to fly in the face of GW hysteria, good luck getting grant support, publication, or an academic appointment anywhere; likewise, media folks would hardly have your phone number on speed dial, and agenda-driven governmental "task forces" would ignore your opinions in favor of those that go well with the rest of the herd. The bottom line as I try to read it is that 1) there is no proof that any "global warming" really occurs apart from periodic cycles of warming and cooling that have apparently occurred for LONG periods of time; 2) since warming/cooling have occurred before the industrial revolution and since, man's contribution is minimal (compared, say, to Mt St. Helens). 3) there are likely many aspects of proper "stewardship of the land" for which we are responsible and accountable to God, which are real and somewhat neglected by many of us ("us" in the generic human as well as Christian sense)
  19. dbroyles

    dbroyles Puritan Board Freshman

    Ah, but it's also cooler...down under, that is.
  20. Skyler

    Skyler Puritan Board Graduate

    Yeah, but American politics isn't concerned with the state of affairs Down Under.
  21. Rich Koster

    Rich Koster Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    I believe God made this planet to be "self healing" . The environment adjusts as temperature cycles up and down to balance itself. I think the contrast between summer and winter show this a little. If it didn't heal, all of the volcanic eruptions would have either frozen us out or choked us by now. All of the forest fires caused by lightning would have destroyed most of the land by now and blackened the sky. Al Gore and company have decided that God needs their help governing His creation, I say no.
  22. Timothy William

    Timothy William Puritan Board Junior

    None of the options exactly matched my view, but I chose 2, 3 and 7 to give an overall indication of my opinions.
  23. Berean

    Berean Puritan Board Doctor

    Al Gore keeps getting hotter under the collar :think:
  24. PresbyDane

    PresbyDane Puritanboard Doctor

    Well globa warming is a farce but we should also be good stewards, both those are true
  25. christiana

    christiana Puritan Board Senior

    Global warming? Yes, but on God's timetable!
    2 Peter 3:10 I love the part about the 'big noise'!

    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
  26. OPC'n

    OPC'n Puritan Board Doctor

    The earth cycles like this....it's nature doing what nature does.
  27. Nate

    Nate Puritan Board Junior

    Some good and not so good science on both sides. I voted 1, 2 and 7.
  28. nasa30

    nasa30 Puritan Board Sophomore

    Bad science. The tough part is that being a good steward of the earth has been hijacked by nut cases. Every time I go to recycle, I am surrounded by people who think I worship the sun and not the SON!

  29. DonP

    DonP Puritan Board Junior

    Having said that, newest science shows we are in a 20 year cooling and then there may be a warming after that.
    I see these as normal cycles God is in control of. The rest is junk science to make a $$ on.
    The only warming people need to be concerned about is the eternal warming.
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2009
  30. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritan Board Doctor

    Of course I am sure the Fall had nothing to do with the instability of the Earth.
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