J. Dean
Puritan Board Junior
Odd move by Billy Graham's organization. Unusual to say the least.
Billy Graham’s site removes reference to Mormons as a cult
Billy Graham’s site removes reference to Mormons as a cult
What do you make of this?
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hammondjones
Puritan Board Junior
Surprised it took this long.
Backwoods Presbyterian
Puritanboard Amanuensis
This isn't really anything new for Billy Graham. He was making friends with theological liberals back in the 1960's.
SolaScriptura
Puritanboard Brimstone
What bothers me is that this appears to be entirely politically motivated. By the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association's own definition of a "cult," Mormonism is obviously a cult. But on the heels of Billy telling Mr. Romney, "I'll do whatever I can to help you win," this move is ridiculous in its intellectual dishonesty.
I think this whole situation is additionally rather shocking given that (if I'm correct), this is the FIRST time that Billy Graham has either endorsed or attempted to use his influence to promote a presidential candidate. I think this is almost as sad as removing Mormonism from a list of cults. I believe that one of the highlights of Graham's career was his ability to relate to and connect with whoever was in the Oval Office regardless of politics. This changes all that.
I think this whole situation is additionally rather shocking given that (if I'm correct), this is the FIRST time that Billy Graham has either endorsed or attempted to use his influence to promote a presidential candidate. I think this is almost as sad as removing Mormonism from a list of cults. I believe that one of the highlights of Graham's career was his ability to relate to and connect with whoever was in the Oval Office regardless of politics. This changes all that.
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Rich Koster
Puritan Board Post-Graduate
Yep, Billy is helping Mitt whitewash the tomb, to make it more attractive to silly lever pullers.
Backwoods Presbyterian
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Fly Caster
Puritan Board Sophomore
This is what happens when truth gets sacrificed on the altar of Power Religion.
sevenzedek
Puritan Board Junior
Sad. But not surprised. A few years ago I watched a YouTube video of Billy Graham talking about how wide the gate of salvation is.
Here it is:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...WVoGFUJYKMuAQKgIw&sig2=KOTkFN1VvP6AEr73jdDGjQ
Here it is:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...WVoGFUJYKMuAQKgIw&sig2=KOTkFN1VvP6AEr73jdDGjQ
R Harris
Puritan Board Sophomore
The Mormon missionaries are definitely taking a better marketing approach when coming to the door. Last week, two of them who looked 18-20 came to my door and said "we are disciples of Jesus Christ. We understand how difficult the world is today and the struggles that people have. Do you mind if we come in for a few minutes and pray with you and your family for whatever need you may have?" Very slick.
The acceptance of Mormonism is due to the same pressure that Christians have faced with opposing anything else against the spirit of the culture. We are not to be "intolerant" of anything - homosexuality, abortion, immoral business practices, and certainly "different denominations" like JWs, Mormons, etc. The word "cult" is no longer allowed.
Has Mormonism really changed THAT much to be acceptable? Did the elders pass some rulings in Salt Lake City over the past few years that have made it more orthodox? Have I missed something?
It is interesting that the Grahams have attacked Obama's theological liberalism but have said nothing about Romney's Mormonism.
Quatchu
Puritan Board Sophomore
A few days ago I came across this article: Billy Graham Meets With Romney; Impressed by His Values
Zach
Puritan Board Senior
I met regularly with a friend of mine and some of the Mormon Missionaries on Campus. They were very dishonest about their beliefs about Jesus. In addition, I don't think many are well trained and their dishonesty flows from lack of knowledge about their own faith. In addition, I think it is hard to pin down what Mormon Theology is because it is primarily an experiential religion and not one that makes a whole lot of sense.
Fly Caster
Puritan Board Sophomore
Tragically, the same could be said about much of Evanjellylical Christianity.
arapahoepark
Puritan Board Professor
Yeah, from what I have learned this isn't surprising with Billy Graham. He did say awhile back I believe, that he believed if you never heard of Jesus you could still be saved by trying your best to be good, and probably with hearing Jesus too. I can't quite remember the exact context but, it was something to that effect.
Zach
Puritan Board Senior
I couldn't agree more, Brother.
Curt
Puritan Board Graduate
18-20 year old elders!??
Quatchu
Puritan Board Sophomore
Curt, when Mormon men graduate high school there expected to spent a few years in missionary service. In order be be member in good standing of the Mormon church. When they are acting within this capacity they have the title of elder.
Edward
Puritanboard Commissioner
I don't understand this to be theological, at all, but purely political so that the Evangelicals will be comfortable voting for the Mormon over the one raised muslim in Indonesia.
In case you haven’t noticed, isn’t the visible church being molded into the Politically Correct mindset? Lots of things you don’t talk about in many churches today.. Sin, homosexuality, other religions. Not that I bet my life on Barna polls, but a lot of polling out there through Barna, and Pew revealing a lot of different mindsets, from people who consider themselves Christians......I think tolerance of just about everything has become the new norm and fewer are daring to say things that would immediately get them branded as intolerant, bigot, racist, homophobe, nut case, etc..... Different world today, and to all you younger generations out there, I would simply say, you probably haven’t seen anything yet!!!!! Just wait....
Bill The Baptist
Puritan Board Graduate
This was posted by John Piper today on Facebook. Damage control perhaps? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...1937268.-2207520000.1350922155&type=1&theater
Wayne
Tempus faciendi, Domine.
I will repeat here an offer to supply a variety of tracts addressed to Mormons.
The PCA Historical Center holds the papers of Rev. Wes Walters, a noted researcher on Mormonism.
Wesley P. Walters Collection - Index
By way of that acquisition, I have a sizable box of extra tracts and pamphlets available for the asking.
I do request that you cover the cost of postage.
The PCA Historical Center holds the papers of Rev. Wes Walters, a noted researcher on Mormonism.
Wesley P. Walters Collection - Index
By way of that acquisition, I have a sizable box of extra tracts and pamphlets available for the asking.
I do request that you cover the cost of postage.
J. Dean
Puritan Board Junior
I will definitely keep that in mind, Wayne. Thank you.
The Apologetic Thomas
Puritan Board Freshman
No surprises here.
I live near the Billy Graham Museum of Evangelism and let me tell you it is not worth visiting.
All the supposed converts ended up falling away later.
Either that or they are the Bible-Belt Christians who go to church every Sunday and live like Atheists.
I would love to see a more consistent evangelist. Perhaps like the older ones?
Not a fan of Billy Graham. Not a fan at all.
I live near the Billy Graham Museum of Evangelism and let me tell you it is not worth visiting.
All the supposed converts ended up falling away later.
Either that or they are the Bible-Belt Christians who go to church every Sunday and live like Atheists.
I would love to see a more consistent evangelist. Perhaps like the older ones?
Not a fan of Billy Graham. Not a fan at all.
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