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Were the disciples baptized?

Discussion in 'Baptism' started by Reformation Monk, Jun 3, 2011.

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  1. Reformation Monk

    Reformation Monk Puritan Board Freshman

    I was just reading John and I thought about Jesus' disciples and the others who fell away in John 6; which made me wonder. I have to assume that they were all baptized.
     
  2. Jack K

    Jack K Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    Paul's epistles speak of how all believers share one baptism and were baptized into Christ: "For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body" (1 Cor. 12:13); "For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ" (Gal. 3:27); "one Lord, one faith, one baptism" (Eph 4:5). So in light of this, it would seem very odd if the other apostles were not baptized. It's safe to assume they were.
     
  3. Reformation Monk

    Reformation Monk Puritan Board Freshman

    So, still thinking here..... so I'm assuming that the disciples here mentioned in John 6 ( the 12, including Judas and the others that are mentioned ) were already baptized.

    So, I guess it's safe to say that they were never baptized with water again after the death, resurrection and ascension of the Lord.

    I wonder, were they indwelt with the Spirit before pentecost and then at pentecost just received more power?

    I don't know, the whole before and after pentecost thing confuses me.

    I mean by just my understanding of scripture alone.... it would seem to me that starting with Adam and Eve and then Abel and so on, there was a "seed" that were truly righteous and indwelt by the spirit.

    So I guess I'm trying to figure out what the significance of pentecost is and if there were those before pentecost that were baptized and fell away, how if anything pentecost changes things?
     
  4. Rufus

    Rufus Puritan Board Junior

    There's one verse where the Apostles where baptizing so I think its logical to say they where themselves baptized.
     
  5. Peairtach

    Peairtach Puritan Board Doctor

    We're not told whether these disciples had yet been baptised. Possibly some or all of them were, by John the Baptist or by Jesus' disciples. Maybe if you did more research into the passage you could get some idea if it was likely that they'd gone as far as being baptised?

    Judas and the Eleven would have been baptised either by John or by the other disciples.

    You have to remember also that not everyone who believed on Jesus was itinerant with Him, like the Twelve. The Apostle says that 500 saw Him at one time after His resurrection (in Galilee?).

    Jesus Himself didn't baptise with water, because He was going to baptise with the Spirit into Himself, which couldn't be done until after His ascension.

    The baptism of the disciples by Christ with - or by - the Holy Spirit into Himself had to be delayed until after the ascension, as Christ couldn't appropriately baptise them into all He had done until then.

    Subsequent generations of believers have been baptised into all that Christ is and has done at regeneration.

    Therefore we don't look for the baptism with the Holy Spirit after conversion.

    John the Baptist predicted Pentecost and related it to water baptism:
    OT saints were indwelt by the Holy Spirit but they didn't have the baptism and fullness we have, and the Holy Spirit didn't have the complete Word of God available to open Christ and His work up to them as we have.

    Sometimes it is called baptism by the Spirit because although Christ is active in baptising us into Himself with His Spirit, the Spirit isn't a passive agent like water, but the Third Person of the Holy Trinity.

    Romans 6 is a major passage which talks about water baptism and the spiritual reality of baptism into Christ at the same time, because of the sacramental union between the two:
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    You should only be baptised with water once, as you are only regenerated and baptised with the Spirit once. In the case of the disciples, John the Baptist indicated that there water baptism anticipated their baptism with the Holy Spirit.
     
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