Yes, there is a totally different history to this in the continental (particularly the Dutch) tradition. Many were married with a simple exchange of vows following the benediction at the AM or PM service. Cornelius Van Til was.I heard once that Herman Hoeksema got married at the close of a Sabbath evening service. Is there any truth to that story?
I agree with this nuance. I definitely would not view the Dutch practice as ideal, but it would be hard for me to condemn it as clearly unlawful (unlike the full-blown modern wedding).I am unaware of anything comparable in view when folk today say that they are going to have their wedding on Sunday. Even if you think that the Dutch practice as I described it was inappropriate on the Lord's Day, what is proposed these days is a far sight from that, customarily being a full-blown modern wedding.
I had heard someone tell of this practice before but it was said to be of puritan origins. I looked into it and could find no example or mention of it among the puritans. I'm grateful to learn the true origin of the practice.Yes, there is a totally different history to this in the continental (particularly the Dutch) tradition. Many were married with a simple exchange of vows following the benediction at the AM or PM service. Cornelius Van Til was.
There would be a short wedding exhortation, followed by coffee and cake or other refreshments (often lunch, which in the Dutch tradition means any light repast) as would customarily follow Sunday services.
I don't think that I would object to the simplicity, but I think I would like to have some kind of celebration. I've been to simple weddings in the past, and those were very nice. I wouldn't do the wedding or the celebration on the Lord's Day, though.I had heard someone tell of this practice before but it was said to be of puritan origins. I looked into it and could find no example or mention of it among the puritans. I'm grateful to learn the true origin of the practice.
I, for one, would hardly object to performing weddings like this. It would remove so much of the worldliness and necessary waste commonplace in American weddings. Though I doubt many brides would be willing to go along with it.
Picture it — The minister might take the sermon time to preach a full sermon upon Christian marriage — something that rarely happens in Christian weddings.— Then the benediction being given, The minister calls upon the bride and groom to stand in their respective places. He administers the vows — "do you and do you." A prayer is offered for God's blessing upon the marriage. — All are dismissed for a meal in the fellowship hall. Done.
Thank you!Here are some older discussions on the same topic or at least it informs or the same subject has come into the discussion.
I went to one from my church last year and I don’t think 20K paid for the two hour reception that took place before the real reception. No exaggeration. Never saw anything quite like it.I don't have any strong opinion one way or another, but it would spare the $20,000 expense which is common in America.
Number sounds low to me. I saw one web site that said the average was $35k. And I knew a guy that was going over $100k for his only child's wedding - roughly his annual salary at the time. The invitation was impressive. And one large weddingI did go to must have been about $100 a person for the reception.I don't have any strong opinion one way or another, but it would spare the $20,000 expense which is common in America.
Personally, I think of a wedding as a service of worship. Do we have to have all services of worship on the sabbath? No, I would not say it is required to be on the Lord's day. But neither would I say it is improper to have on the Lord's day. (Kind of a different twist ... the question might ought to be phrased if a Christian couple has their wedding NOT on the Lord's day, should you attend!)We had one on the Lord's Day out of necessity, but the service was done in a regulative way. The 1689 allows for lawful oaths and vows, therefore we permitted it. But, it was basically a full church service (singing, prayer, scripture reading, and preaching) with a portion devoted to the bride and groom making their wedding vows. The bride and groom were happy because they didn't have to pay anything since we just added additional service in the afternoon after the normal Sunday fellowship meal, but the extended family was very much unhappy with the service. That is not what they expected. I don't think we would do that again unless it was an absolute necessity. It was a very long day.
Well, you would not have a private communion ... you would have to have everyone in the church there. It would have to be announced that it was going to be a communion service. I understand some churches celebrate the Lord's table every week, but I remember one church (first PCA church I was a member at) celebrated the supper once a quarter. But it would seem that given that vows are a prescribed element of worship, I can't see any reason a wedding couldn't be performed at a communion service. There certainly could be use of scriptures that point to the church being the bride of Christ. When Jean and I married, we had hymns, what was essentially a sermon, prayer ... everything was within the regulative principle on purpose.That's contrary to what my understanding has always been. If it is a worship service, then communion would be appropriate, and again, that is contrary to my understanding of the Presbyterian view.