[quote:433891171a="Scott Bushey"][quote:433891171a]
In the same way that the call of the gospel applies to the elect and non-elect, even though in that case also there is no doubt as to the outcome.[/quote:433891171a]
Fred,
But the call is an effectual element to the monergism of God. Men cannot be saved unless the call goes out..........In this case, the subject matter is ~falling away~. Someone is being warned of [i:433891171a]falling away[/i:433891171a]. The elect cannot surely fall away. The reprobate were never there; how can they fall away from someplace they have never truly aquired?
[quote:433891171a]For the non-elect, inability to keep from falling away does not elminate the responsibility not to fall away. Just like God commands [b:433891171a]all men[/b:433891171a] to repent, even though not all [i:433891171a]can[/i:433891171a]. For the elect, the warnings are a means used by God to effect the perseverance of the saints.[/quote:433891171a]
Hmmmmmm[/quote:433891171a]
The non-elect can fall away. This is referring not to falling away from election, or even salvation, but rather the covenant.
And the call of salvation goes out indiscriminately. So with the warnings.
In the same way that the call of the gospel applies to the elect and non-elect, even though in that case also there is no doubt as to the outcome.[/quote:433891171a]
Fred,
But the call is an effectual element to the monergism of God. Men cannot be saved unless the call goes out..........In this case, the subject matter is ~falling away~. Someone is being warned of [i:433891171a]falling away[/i:433891171a]. The elect cannot surely fall away. The reprobate were never there; how can they fall away from someplace they have never truly aquired?
[quote:433891171a]For the non-elect, inability to keep from falling away does not elminate the responsibility not to fall away. Just like God commands [b:433891171a]all men[/b:433891171a] to repent, even though not all [i:433891171a]can[/i:433891171a]. For the elect, the warnings are a means used by God to effect the perseverance of the saints.[/quote:433891171a]
Hmmmmmm[/quote:433891171a]
The non-elect can fall away. This is referring not to falling away from election, or even salvation, but rather the covenant.
And the call of salvation goes out indiscriminately. So with the warnings.