I attend the Reformed Church of Dunedin, part of the Reformed Churches of New Zealand, which was founded by Dutch immigrants who found the Presbyterian Church of New Zealand to be too liberal. I've only attended 2 services of the Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand, although I am currently doing work experience in the Presbyterian archives, which exposes me a little to the PCANZ. The PCANZ is quite liberal - they ordain women as ministers. I've also been to Grace Bible Church, part of the Grace Presbyterian Church of New Zealand, but they were contemporary and not liturgical at all. The Reformed Churches of NZ are not liturgical - we don't follow the Church year (except Easter and Christmas) and our pastors don't wear clerical collars or Geneva gowns or albs and stoles. It is my impression that Presbyterians do these things to a certain extent. Can anyone here who has experience of both groups enlighten me on the main differences between these two groups?