Please read this article and the comments: https://mereorthodoxy.com/augustine-concupiscence-friendship/ As far as gay desires I see many sides of this debate. Here are my questions: Is the label heterosexual a false construct that wound up legitimizing identity (homosexuality) over abominable act (sodomy)? Does gay conversion therapy put a secondary outcome (sexual normalization, marriage) over a primary (being whole in Christ and remaining single, celibate and mortified)? How does Calvin's view of sexuality compare to Augustine's? Is it better for a person with same-sex desire to become straight and married so his/her sexual need/desire can be satisfied in a lawful manner? Is celibecy too difficult a proposition due to the carnal-sexual needs of the creature - weren't we born with the desire to gratify this need? I see today's evangelical getting too hung up on gay conversion over the mortification of sinful desire and personal idolatry, or should this go hand in hand? I'm wondering if the true issue is being too self focused and carnally minded over being filled by Christ. But maybe proper use of sexual desire is too gnawing of a need to ignore? I don't know? Obviously the revoice group put carnal/sinful needs and desires over the one thing needful and failed to place first/primary things first/primary.