Rob Bell is at it again with his new book

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  1. jawyman

    jawyman Puritan Board Junior

    I am not certain if this is the right forum, so a moderator may move it to a more appropriate forum if need be, but here is what Rob Bell is teaching about hell. This is from Kevin DeYoung's blog on the Gospel Coalition website.

    Kevin DeYoung
     
  2. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritan Board Doctor

  3. fredtgreco

    fredtgreco Vanilla Westminsterian Staff Member

    I saw this, and posted it to my FB. I may blog about it next week, because I believe it is very significant. I am actually grateful that this bad theology - no, damning theology - is being made public. In that way, it can be combated by the light of day.
     
  4. lynnie

    lynnie Puritan Board Senior

    Whew.

    He makes annilhilation doctrine look good.....
     
  5. O'GodHowGreatThouArt

    O'GodHowGreatThouArt Puritan Board Sophomore

    There can be no good news without the existence of and/or the denigration of the purpose of Hell and the wrath of God.

    What do we need to be saved from? What purpose is there in Christ if there is no wrath to come?

    They're basically implying that God wasted His son for no reason...

    Who but a fool can state that about the Son of God and think that they are correct?

    There are days where I believe those who never professed the name of Christ will be far better off at the Day of Judgment than those who pull these kinds of stunts.
     
  6. Grillsy

    Grillsy Puritan Board Junior

    It will be interesting to see what the book says when it is released. It will see a lot of copies I am sure. It will undoubtedly sway some folks like his other tomes.
    I just want to see his argumentation. It will be his usual weak, humanistic sophistry I am sure.
     
  7. Micah Everett

    Micah Everett Puritan Board Freshman

    Wow. I'm not surprised that Rob Bell believes this, but will admit to being a bit surprised that he has said it so openly.
     
  8. JonathanHunt

    JonathanHunt Puritan Board Senior

    He's coming to my home town this year, along with Brian Mclaren and Phyllis Tickle. The unholy trinity, if ever there was one.
     
  9. kvanlaan

    kvanlaan Puritan Board Doctor

    He's just following in the footsteps of the Emperor of the Dark Side, Brian McLaren. Every Sith Lord does.

    Cmon, loosen up - God has faith in you, and hell is no longer existant. Bell's take on it was good, but McLaren goes one further and says that the sacking of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple is the judgment that the Bible foretold. We're all done! So let's continue in sin, that grace may abound!

    From the podcast on bleedingpurple:
     
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  10. Sonny

    Sonny Puritan Board Sophomore

    The sad thing is; I know Christians who love this guy and will take his word at gold. Before coming to the truths of the reformed faith, I did follow this guy.

    Christianity is exposed to this evil, and has become swayed by it. Rob Bell is like the boy who can shave, sweet talk his way into a relationship but does harm, even can cause death.
     
  11. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritan Board Doctor

    I believe we'll see some more folks start to openly admit to holding a similar position to Bell. There are plenty of closet Universalists out there and even more annihilationists.
     
  12. jawyman

    jawyman Puritan Board Junior

    I look forward to read the apologetics on this. I am from Grand Rapids, so I oftentimes feel like I am on the front-lines of the war on heresy. Rob Bell is a very dangerous man.
     
  13. lynnie

    lynnie Puritan Board Senior

    My husband watched the video and pointed out that RB actually does grasp that the message of traditional evangelical Christianity is that God is the one who needs to be satisfied in salvation, as opposed to rescuing us from the devil, etc. He rejects it, but he does properly grasp the true gospel we hold to.
     
  14. kvanlaan

    kvanlaan Puritan Board Doctor

    Lynnie, that's part of what really bothers me about the man. It is deception, pure and simple; he is twisting a beautiful thing and whoring a pure woman. And some of my family would make a hajj to Grand Rapids just to hear him in person. :banghead:
     
  15. Micah Everett

    Micah Everett Puritan Board Freshman

    I wonder if having him speak while walking outside in the snow is an intentional device to make the orthodox teaching about God, Heaven, Hell, and salvation that he is caricaturing seem cold and unfeeling.

    (...or, if that's just because it's winter and he's in Grand Rapids, and I'm reading too much into his staging....)
     
  16. jawyman

    jawyman Puritan Board Junior

    @ Kevin, let me just say a hajj to Grand Rapids cracked me up. I'm from here and it always fascinates me that people come to GR on purpose, let alone to hear RB spew forth his tripe.

    @ Micah, there is no escape from the snow in GR. He is walking around outside in the snow, because during this time of year we have no other choice:)
     
  17. kvanlaan

    kvanlaan Puritan Board Doctor

    Grand Rapids is definitely a destination when you grow up in the CRC. Up here, it's called "Jerusalem North".
     
  18. Marrow Man

    Marrow Man Drunk with Powder

    The sermon text from this morning (2 Peter 2:1-3):

    This is nothing new. There will always be false teachers among God's people. Flee from them and don't cozy up them like Korah's tent.
     
  19. Ivan

    Ivan Pastor

    I've never read anything by Rob Bell. I don't even know who he is, but after all the fuss I think I want to read the book and find out what is going on.
     
  20. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritan Board Doctor

    Providentially we also found ourself in a text that deals directly with this issue. Amos 5:16-27 which specifically mentions the "Day of the Lord" and Israel's failure to prepare for it and its false hope in its own righteousness.
     
  21. Marrow Man

    Marrow Man Drunk with Powder

    Yep, that'll preach.
     
  22. TheElk

    TheElk Puritan Board Freshman

    Yep, I live 15 minutes away from this guys church. It's sad.
     
  23. DMcFadden

    DMcFadden Moderator Staff Member

    Mr. Bell is one of the most "illustrious" graduates of my alma mater. Inhaling the heady air of Pasadena, he heard these things the same place I did, from our profs. Graduating several years before Bell, annihilation was taught/promoted in my Sys Theo III class way back in the '70s when Bell was in 1st grade!

    To my extreme dismay, he is uber popular with many young evangelicals.
     
  24. Micah Everett

    Micah Everett Puritan Board Freshman

    I suppose so. Leave it to a musician to overanalyze things like staging.

    [SIZE="-5"](...but he COULD have done it inside! Just saying....)[/SIZE]
     
  25. Grillsy

    Grillsy Puritan Board Junior

    I was required to watch/read everything he did during my undergraduate work.
     
  26. Andres

    Andres Puritan Board Doctor

    I'm sorry :(
     
  27. Grillsy

    Grillsy Puritan Board Junior

    That which does not kill me only makes me stronger :lol:

    With each Nooma video it seemed like he would get progressively worse.

    I had to read Bell's first book right along side McLaren's Generous Orthodoxy for one theology class.
    Many of the other students took every word of Bell's as truth. Many of the same students were very leery of MacLaren. I found that very interesting.
     
  28. CIT

    CIT Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    I am with you, Micah. I thought it was intentional. Big producers do not do anything without serious thought going into it.
     
  29. Kevin

    Kevin Puritan Board Doctor

    here is a blogger that has read the book; Being The Body: Love Wins

    I am no Rob Bell "fanboy", hey I can't even think of anything nicer to say about him then "I'm not a fan". but it seems like the stoning should wait until we have the book in hand, n'est pas?
     
  30. Gforce9

    Gforce9 Puritan Board Junior

    I had a debate with a young man on Facebook about this. In his diatribe, he denied the immutability of God as well as Original Sin. In the same few paragraphs, he embraced syncretism and antinomianism......
     
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