Quick Poll: Which Translation of Calvin's Institutes?

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  1. eqdj

    eqdj Puritan Board Freshman

    Hey Y'all,

    In researching the 2009 Year in the Institutes I came across this thread:
    But it looked like there was no strong winner, so would you please answer three simple questions? (Not looking for debate or discussion, just which do you prefer)

    1. Beveridge or Battles?
    2. Which Bible Translation Do You Use Most?
    3. Warfield or Kuyper?

    Thank You!
     
  2. Scott1

    Scott1 Puritanboard Commissioner

    1) Battles
    2) KJV / NIV (but ESV more-and-more)
    3) not sure
     
  3. N. Eshelman

    N. Eshelman Puritan Board Senior

    1. McNeill (Westminster/John Knox version)
    2. I use ESV and NKJV... I like the Received Text, but prefer the way ESV reads.
    3. Warfield.
     
  4. Whitefield

    Whitefield Puritan Board Junior

    1. Battles
    2. NASB
    3. Warfield
     
  5. JTDyck

    JTDyck Puritan Board Freshman

    1. Battles
    2. KJV
    3. Warfield
     
  6. Presbyterian Deacon

    Presbyterian Deacon Puritan Board Graduate

    1. Beveridge
    2. Lately, ESV but I prefer KJV (it's just that my church seems to like ESV).
    3. Warfield
     
  7. Gesetveemet

    Gesetveemet Puritan Board Sophomore

    .

    INSTITUTES OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION by JOHN CALVIN

    Translated by HENRY BEVERIDGE

    1957 WM. B. EERDMANS PUBLISHING COMPANY
    ___________________________________________ :)

    THE HOLY BIBLE CONTANING THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS

    Translated out of the original tongues
    and with the former translations
    diligently compared and revised


    BY HIS MAJESTY'S SPECIAL COMMAND

    Appointed to be read in Churches

    Authorised (King James) Version

    Printed by Authority

    ___________________________________________ :smug:

    PARTICULAR GRACE

    A Defence of
    God's Sovereignty
    in Salvation

    by Abraham Kuyper

    translated from the Dutch
    by Marvin Kemps

    Reformed Free Publishing Association
    Grandville, Michigan


    ___________________________________________ :wow:

    .
     
  8. Logopneumatika

    Logopneumatika Puritan Board Freshman

    1. Battles (this shouldn't even be in question)
    2. ESV
    3. Kuyper, but this blog post isn't even close to accurate:

    "The result of Kuyper's thinking is an insipid anti-intellectualism that makes Christianity nonsense and surrenders the intellect to the world."

    Says who? Kuyper did not think so, neither did Bavinck or Van Til who followed substantially (though not totally) on the antithesis. Kuyper's views of common grace, which aren't even mentioned here, supplemented his views on the noetic affects of sin and the antithesis. Does this author even care to understand the Dutch position??? He is clearly a disciple of Gordon Clark.

    This post doesn't even quote a primary source of Kuyper. It only cites Kuypers words via Heslam, yet it provides an entire article of Warfield verbatim. This is a shoddy, second-rate analysis of a highly nuanced neo-Calvinistic position. The blogger may not agree with Kuyper's exposition of de wetenschap (science), but at least he should try to understand it.
     
  9. Ask Mr. Religion

    Ask Mr. Religion Flatly Unflappable

    I prefer the 2008 revised Beveridge for The Institutes.

    The new ESV Study Bible, 2007 ESV text edition.

    Warfield, of course.
     
  10. eqdj

    eqdj Puritan Board Freshman

    :lol:

    -----Added 12/19/2008 at 08:20:06 EST-----

    I hadn't heard of this, I"ll have to look for it.
    Thanks!
    :)
     
  11. Theognome

    Theognome Burrito Bill

    There is a water ring on my copy of institutes. You see, I was involved in some battles that caused me to spill my beveridge...

    Theognome
     
  12. N. Eshelman

    N. Eshelman Puritan Board Senior

    Boooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! Hiiiiiiiisssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
     
  13. eqdj

    eqdj Puritan Board Freshman

    :lol:

    You all are blowing my assumptions out of the water.
    I assumed Beveridge=KJV=Warfield - y'all are all over the map!

    Thank you!
     
  14. Ezekiel3626

    Ezekiel3626 Puritan Board Freshman

    Battles
    KJV
    Warfield
     
  15. CDM

    CDM Puritan Board Junior

    1. Battles (edited by McNeill)
    2. KJV
    3. Warfield
     
  16. Ivan

    Ivan Pastor

    Battles
    NKJV/KJV
    Warfield
     
  17. lukeh021471

    lukeh021471 Puritan Board Freshman

    Battles
    ESV
    Warfield:detective:
     
  18. shackleton

    shackleton Puritan Board Junior

    1. Beveridge. Because I highlighted it and did not want to mark up my good hardback Battles version.
    2.ESV
    3. Hodge/Turretin :)
     
  19. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritanboard Amanuensis

    1) Beveridge

    2) NKJV/NAB

    3) Kuyper
     
  20. eqdj

    eqdj Puritan Board Freshman

    Ha! Nicely done, Sir!
     
  21. Jimmy the Greek

    Jimmy the Greek Puritan Board Senior

    -Battles
    -NASB/NKJV
    -Warfield
     
  22. jawyman

    jawyman Puritan Board Junior

    1. Battles
    2. ESV
    3. No translation (the latin and the french).
     
  23. CarlosOliveira

    CarlosOliveira Puritan Board Freshman

    1. Battles
    2. Lately ESV, but I prefer KJV (it's just that my church uses ESV in PW).
    3. Warfield
     
  24. CIT

    CIT Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    Beveridge
    ESV
    Both
     
  25. brymaes

    brymaes Puritan Board Sophomore

    1. Battles/McNeill
    2. 1611 AV
    3. Kuyper
     
  26. PointyHaired Calvinist

    PointyHaired Calvinist Puritan Board Sophomore

    1) Battles
    2) HCSB/Geneva
    3) Warfield
     
  27. py3ak

    py3ak They're stalling and plotting against me Staff Member

    Beveridge. When Richard Muller is pleased to quote a translation of Calvin instead of citing the original, he used Beveridge. If something is unclear you can always compare Battles.
     
  28. TimV

    TimV Puritanboard Botanist

    Battles, but that's just because I bought it 25 years ago. No passionate loyalty.

    ESV, NKJ etc...

    Pay particular attention to the post by Logopneumatika. I noticed the same unfairness in the linked blog.
     
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