After reading some criticisms of Frames article on Presuppositionalism in 5 View on Apologetics, I thought I would bring this particular criticism out. I have seen similar ones made here on the Board yet no one really clarifies it. So here goes. Frame states that regarding the necessity of faith that "the unbeliever cannot think according to Christian presuppositions." Then in a footnote on this statment he write "I am reffering here to the unbeliever's [i:8d9a15b55c]dominant[/i:8d9a15b55c] presuppositions. As I said before, unbelievers often think Christianly in spite of themselves." And then again he writes: "Whether unbelievers admit it or not, God made them to think with the Christian-theistic worldview as their presupposition. And at one level of their consciousness, they do think that way... We may ask the unbeliever to think on Christian presuppositions, because in one sense he already does. Our plea is that he drop the unbelieving presuppositions that dominate his thought and give heed to those principles that he knows but suppresses." (5 Views, pg 217,218) I don't get it. How can he say they can't hold to Chrsitian presuppositions and yet say that they do hold to Christian presuppositions? Seems contradictory to me. Any Presupps care to elaborate on this concept?