On the recent thread VII and Roman Catholic Apologetics? I was reminded of Scott Hahn's and Gerry Matatics' conversion from Presbyterianism to Roman Catholicism. Scott Hahn did his internship here in Wichita at one of the local PCUSA churches, so I know of people who had interaction with some of the controversy. After being reminded of these guys, I decided to listen to a lecture or two by Hahn, and to be honest, it made me a little sick to my stomach. How in the world can someone as "smart" as these guys make a switch like that? Where in the world did they go wrong?