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I guess that rules out the Apostle Paul, seeing as he goes straight for the jugular in Rom 9.
R.C. Sproul's book Chosen By God has a chapter dedicated to the topic....
Hey Guys,
I'm looking for a preacher / teacher / scholar who talks about double-predestination in a pastorally sensitive, and compassionate way.
But at the same time doesn't compromise or water down his message to be seeker sensitive.
Robert,
I doubt anyone here principially objects to your strong position on lapsarianism. Certainly you haven't been with us long enough for anyone to have even a mild exchange of views with you.
So, introducing your interest and commitment by belligerently name-calling people who disagree with it (muddle headed subcalvinists) warns potential partners in the conversation about your vehemence. People are just going to give you a wide berth, and you'll end up talking to yourself.
Have you read any Infra- posting on the PB going the opposite way, and name-calling? Any fellow supralapsarians- talking that way? Let's try to keep it civil, OK?
Robert,
I doubt anyone here principially objects to your strong position on lapsarianism. Certainly you haven't been with us long enough for anyone to have even a mild exchange of views with you.
So, introducing your interest and commitment by belligerently name-calling people who disagree with it (muddle headed subcalvinists) warns potential partners in the conversation about your vehemence. People are just going to give you a wide berth, and you'll end up talking to yourself.
Have you read any Infra- posting on the PB going the opposite way, and name-calling? Any fellow supralapsarians- talking that way? Let's try to keep it civil, OK?
Actually no i haven't been typing my response on another program ,though I did cut & paste John Gill's Quotes just to elaborate on the Subject
of the decrees cause I thought it was a worthwhile quote & relevant to the subject at hand ,remember Iron sharpens Iron brother.
Also there was a bit of
brinksmanship mixed in there as well,not belligerence man which is worse than my comment(Isnt that name calling on your part!).I was trying to bait for a reply & stir up a little heat on the subject to keep the post rolling along,
seems it worked. I take back the muddled thinking reply & apologise if I've caused you or any other subby brother any offence.
Hey Guys,
I'm looking for a preacher / teacher / scholar who talks about double-predestination in a pastorally sensitive, and compassionate way.
But at the same time doesn't compromise or water down his message to be seeker sensitive.
Actually no i haven't been typing my response on another program ,though I did cut & paste John Gill's Quotes just to elaborate on the Subject
of the decrees cause I thought it was a worthwhile quote & relevant to the subject at hand ,remember Iron sharpens Iron brother.
Are you typing on a phone?
Also there was a bit of
brinksmanship mixed in there as well,not belligerence man which is worse than my comment(Isnt that name calling on your part!).I was trying to bait for a reply & stir up a little heat on the subject to keep the post rolling along,
seems it worked. I take back the muddled thinking reply & apologise if I've caused you or any other subby brother any offence.
Robert, Bruce is an admin, a seasoned pastor, and was giving you straight advice.
Ken was pointing out the odd line breaks, as are indicated in the portion I quoted. They make it hard to understand your writing.
Finally, more advice from another admin: 1. Do not call an administrator's or moderator's advice brinksmanship, 2. avoid accusing them of belligerence, 3. avoid "baiting", which is not favored here, and 4. avoid deliberately stirring up "heat."
I'm hoping the party spirit you mention in your signature is tongue-in-cheek and not the defining aspect of your presence here.
Robert, feel free to call me Vic. I don't need all the titles.
After your clarification, I am happy to retract implying you were accusing others of brinksmanship and belligerence. The reference to "name calling on your part" threw me off of what the object of the sentence was.
I am also encouraged that you will "give parts 3 & 4 further consideration." Actually, those bits of what I called "advice" are drawn from our forum rules: vBulletin FAQ
I am reminding you, me, and all of us to remember them.