Praise Song Sung on American Idol Tonight

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  1. Bygracealone

    Bygracealone Puritan Board Sophomore

    I was actually quite impressed with the show tonight. The idol contestants sang a praise song; they sang "Shout to the Lord" and it was quite nice. I find it encouraging to see them tying Christ to their season of mercy with Idol gives back. Granted, it doesn't mean American Idol is a Christian program or even that the contestants actually believe what they sung when singing the praise. Nevertheless, Christ's name was proclaimed to millions of people and for this I rejoice.
     
  2. Bygracealone

    Bygracealone Puritan Board Sophomore

    Guys, that's not the same performance that aired on tv. In the one on tv, they're not all dressed in white and the version I saw and heard included the name of Jesus in the song; that's one of the reasons I was impressed by it. In fact, I've still got the program on my DVR.
     
  3. Bygracealone

    Bygracealone Puritan Board Sophomore

    I just double checked to make sure I was right, and what I said is correct. I just went on Americanidol.com (please note I'm not that big of a fan. I just went to see what folks had to say about this). Anyway, somebody else noticed it too. Here's one comment I found:

    Posted: 4/10/2008 5:54:00 PM Why did the lyrics to \"Shout to the Lord\" change from \"my shepherd\" to \"my Jesus\" in tonight\'s show? I am glad, but I was wondering why.

    Timothy, I know what you're saying about getting sick with much of the praise music. Hey, I came out of the Calvary Chapel craze (even went to their Bible college). Actually, I'm one of those EP guys now. That said, I find myself rejoicing in the fact that one of the biggest shows on tv tonight praised Jesus as King. Again, whether they meant it or not, it's still glorious to know that millions upon millions of people heard the name of Jesus being proclaimed.
     
  4. Bygracealone

    Bygracealone Puritan Board Sophomore

    Hey, where did everybody's posts go? Now, it's just you and me Josh... :)
     
  5. Barnpreacher

    Barnpreacher Puritan Board Junior

    :ditto: My wife and I watch the show and we were quite shocked at the fact they sang the song. Plus the song actually has good words in it, and as you said it mentions the name of Jesus Christ in the opening line.

    I'm with you in that I'm not ready to proclaim American Idol as a Christian program because it's not, but I was rather impressed with that choice of song tonight. And I must confess I'm a bit puzzled by it because of how strong the words are.
     
  6. Barnpreacher

    Barnpreacher Puritan Board Junior

    You know, it would be one thing if the song just mentioned the name of the Lord. Nobody would think anything of that because everyone in the world has their own "Lord." But the song actually starts out mentioning the name of the ONE, TRUE LORD - Jesus Christ.
     
  7. PuritanCovenanter

    PuritanCovenanter Moderator Staff Member

    I like the song.
     
  8. ReformedWretch

    ReformedWretch Puritan Board Doctor

    I like the song and was absolutely shocked tonight, in a pleasant way. To hear these words on AI was really surprising.

    My Jesus, My Savior
    Lord there is none like You
    All of my days, I want to praise
    The wonders of Your mighty love
    My Comfort, My Shelter
    Tower of refuge and strength
    Let every breath, all that I am
    Never cease to worship You
    (Chorus)
    Shout to the Lord, all the earth
    Let us sing. Power and majesty, praise to the King.
    Mountains bow down and the seas will roar
    At the sound of Your name
    I sing for joy at the work of Your hands
    Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
    Nothing compares to the promise I have in
    YOU!

    (chorus)
    My Jesus, My Savior
    Lord there is none like You
    All of my days, I want to praise
    The wonders of Your mighty love
    My Comfort, My Shelter
    Tower of refuge and strength
    Let every breath, all that I am
    Never cease to worship You

    (Chorus)
    Shout to the Lord, all the earth
    Let us sing. Power and majesty, praise to the King.
    Mountains bow down and the seas will roar
    At the sound of Your name
    I sing for joy at the work of Your hands
    Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
    Nothing compares to the promise I have in
    YOU!
    (bridge)
    let the earth sing
    i declare your great name
    all of my life i will
    with all of my breath
    i will praise you
    lift it up, life it up

    (chorus)

    nothing compares to you
    i shout your praise
    nothing compares to you
    Nothing compares to the promise I have in YOU!
     
  9. Craig

    Craig Puritan Board Senior

    I like the song...but my wife and I found the performance unnerving.

    I can't completely put my finger on why...it has to do with the fact that American Idol likely sees their "giving back" as a religious thing...I guess I saw it as more manipulative than anything. Of course, the fact they used a song worshipping the One True God is very telling...even unbelievers can tell their good works mean nothing apart from Christianity.

    Sorry to be the downer, guys...pagans using a song like that seems to be demanding judgment (not from me) rather than something to rejoice over in and of itself.
     
  10. BobVigneault

    BobVigneault Bawberator

    I haven't made it a secret as to how I feel about American Idolatry. I'm with Craig on this one.

    I like that song a bunch and having it on AI is manipulative. It's a gold ring in a pig's snout.
     
  11. govols

    govols Puritan Board Junior

    Mmmmm - Bacon. :drool:
     
  12. PuritanCovenanter

    PuritanCovenanter Moderator Staff Member

    I think it is great. Christ was sang to by pagans as King. I sang right along with them. They sing judgment upon themselves and those who sang to the Lord with right hearts sang Praise. The father can draw to Christ or judge as he sees fit. He shall be praised. Remember the unconverted that sang Hosanna in the Highest the day before he was crucified. They were calling for his crucifixion just a little later. And he accepted that praise saying if they didn't praise Him the rocks would call out.

    Shout to the Lord, all the earth
    Let us sing. Power and majesty, praise to the King.
    Mountains bow down and the seas will roar
    At the sound of Your name
    I sing for joy at the work of Your hands
    Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
    Nothing compares to the promise I have in
    YOU!
     
  13. JBaldwin

    JBaldwin Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    I'm sorry, but hearing that rendition of Shout to the Lord on American Idol made my stomach churn. It was only one slight step higher than Miley Cirus' (aka Hannah Montana) little speech at the Kid's Choice Award claiming she is a christian. There was nothing wrong with what she said, but coming out her mouth it was pure mockery.
     
  14. Blue Tick

    Blue Tick Puritan Board Graduate

    :ditto:




     
  15. Craig

    Craig Puritan Board Senior

    Randy,

    I know what you're saying...that's why I said pagans singing the song was no occassion to rejoice "in and of itself". I agree with you (in a certain sense). I will rejoice when God judges the wicked, and I rejoice that all creation cries out "glory!" to the King.

    I do think the context of American Idol is significantly different than Christ being praised before His death...those unbelievers were moved by Christ (even though they didn't understand Him), American Idol was moved by the works of their own hands...ironic when out of the other side of the mouth they sing: "I sing for joy at the work of Your hands".

    Some evangelicals will see the singing of that song as a "sanctifying" of the show making it more than what it is...I'm not saying you are doing this...or anyone else on the PB...just adding the voice of balance ;)
     
  16. Barnpreacher

    Barnpreacher Puritan Board Junior

    Was the name of Jesus Christ positively declared in front of millions of people last night? Please, just answer me that question.

    Read the words of the song that Adam posted and then answer me that one question. I'm not asking whether or not you like American Idol. I'm not asking whether or not they knew what they were singing about. I'm not asking what their motive for singing it was.

    I'm asking one simple question - Was the name of Jesus Christ positively declared on national television last night?

    I mean we've heard his name used in vain enough on television and movies, let's just be thankful that for once His precious Name was sung about in a right way.
     
  17. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

    I haven't listened to the song, and don't care for most hymns, period, although some I like and I don't object in principle to the compositions of men written, spoken or sung outside of worship, which glorify God. It is true that carnal men singing God's praises is a mixed thing: it both glorifies God and brings the singers greater condemnation from their own mouths. I love to hear Handel's Messiah sung, but most choir performances that I have observed typically come from liberal ungodly churches. I don't know the hearts of all those singing. Perhaps God will bring the words they sing to their remembrance later on, if they are not presently converted, and use them for their good as well as his glory. Or perhaps it will redound to their utter destruction. But the singing of God's praises by unbelievers, though deficient, ought not to be condemned per se. When it is done for mere carnal entertainment or for other ends, then those are factors to consider as well in evaluating the singing. I'm not going to offer an evaluation here of an American Idol performance, but I thought these words from John Cotton may be worth considering.

    Speaking of psalms, John Cotton has said:

     
  18. Blue Tick

    Blue Tick Puritan Board Graduate

    No, the singing of the song was not to give God glory or to recognize Christ as the saviour. How would we define this as a positive influence when his name is being used in vain. The use of "My Jesus", well which Jesus? There are many Jesus' in the world but which Jesus is being referenced in the song. I say this not only in reference to the song as it was sung by the AI contestents;but also when evangelicals sing the song. Which Jesus are they referring too?



    Can we really say that his name was used in a right way? Was it reverent?
     
  19. Barnpreacher

    Barnpreacher Puritan Board Junior

    Whatever you want to think, brother. You're entitled. God bless.
     
  20. BobVigneault

    BobVigneault Bawberator

    Was the name of Jesus Christ positively declared on national television last night? YES!

    Is the name of Jesus a name above all names? YES!

    Do I love to hear the name of Jesus? YES

    Am I impressed that Jesus was said in a nice way on American Idolatry? NO!

    Saying the name of Jesus on a show dedicated to the flesh and apart from the context of the Gospel is manipulative. American Idolatry sells commercials and panders to people with wallets. You have been pandered to.

    Your question is a non sequitur, In my humble opinion.


     
  21. Pergamum

    Pergamum Ordinary Guy (TM)

    Ha! Too much Simpsons for you, brother!
     
  22. Richard King

    Richard King Puritan Board Senior

    I understand the show is of the world
    but I am going to say it is as if the rocks cry out his glory if we don't.
    God WILL be glorified.

    p.s.
    Personally I wouldn't be part of anything to do the show because of the name IDOL
    (that and the fact that I can't carry a tune in a bucket)
     
  23. Southern Presbyterian

    Southern Presbyterian Moderator Staff Member

    I'm not 100% sure this would apply to singing like it would to actual preaching, but...

    I too was surprised to see/hear this, but do take comfort in it base on the Scripture quoted above. :2cents:

    Blessings,
     
  24. ColdSilverMoon

    ColdSilverMoon Puritan Board Senior

    Why do you say this about Miley Cyrus and American Idol? I know nothing about Cyrus but do enjoy AI. Just curious why you consider what they did to be a "mockery."
     
  25. Barnpreacher

    Barnpreacher Puritan Board Junior

    Brother James,

    On my way home from town this morning these are the exact verses I was thinking of. Thanks for posting them. But I'm sure those of us that have been pandered to are taking them out of context in some way.
     
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  26. Barnpreacher

    Barnpreacher Puritan Board Junior

    How do you know that some of the kids that participate in the show aren't believers? Does participating in the show automatically disqualify them from being a believer?
     
  27. smhbbag

    smhbbag Puritan Board Senior

    I will first say that I completely share the disdain expressed here for the garbage that passes for entertainment these days. The sensationalism, sensuality, and idolatry are deplorable and greatly harm the minds of people caught up in it.

    That said, I am very much trying to temper my anger at the moment, but I don't know if I should. This thread contains loads of utterly unjustifiable attacks on people who I believe are wonderful brothers and sisters in Christ who are doing legitimate good and honoring the Lord.

    I say I 'hate' the trash on t.v. and 90% of American Idol typically qualifies that way, but I just realized that what I hate even more is seeing obedient believers slandered in ignorance and pride.

    My wife and I always watch the first few episodes just to see the various types of people. And we end up almost never watching the rest, because the performances are pretty much sexualized self-worship.

    Yet, because that is the tenor of the show overall, many here see fit to rebuke everyone associated with it as purveyors of evil. I don't just take issue with that - it is making my blood boil.

    This season my wife and I were very pleasantly surprised to see a number of people on it who have their heads on straight. I will only mention two, in particular.

    The girl in the white skirt and blue shirt in that video (I've forgotten her name), and David Archuleta.

    My wife and I have developed a sincere and honest love for the white-skirt-girl, because her actions have honored the Lord at every moment. She has openly acknowledged Christ as her Lord, and represents His gospel honestly and in great humility. In dress, and more importantly in action, she is a wonderful example of modesty.

    She responds to criticism thoughtfully and not defensively. Though in her 20's and attractive, she has not succumbed to our culture - she is married and treats her husband with genuine affection and respect. Her song choices (that I've seen) have always been tasteful, and performed in such a way as to draw attention to the beauty of the music and not to show off herself.

    Gentlemen, this woman being in front of the American people should be cause for praise. To dismiss her as just another Paris, Hannah Montana, or Janet Jackson wannabe is just inexcusable.

    The same goes for David Archuleta, who I believe is only 17. He is genuinely humble, respectful of those older than him, and sings because he enjoys it and loves the music. You can always tell when a singer thinks much of himself, and he clearly does not.

    Ultimately, American Idol is not a monolithic show with but one face. Its producers and management quite obviously have little in the way of conscience. But, in the end, it is simply a show where people sing to entertain others. And, if they do well, they may get to do that for a living. None of these things can be called sinful. The show, at any given time, is the quality of the contestant at that time.

    It is amazing how much the entire show can take on a different character when a godly individual is on stage. The producers, writers, "hollywood" and all its related evils fade away, and at that moment the show is what the contestant makes it. Participation in this kind of show is not sinful, and it is certainly wrong to paint every contestant with the same broad brush.

    I know the temptation to pridefully dismiss the possibility of good, God-honoring work being done in the exact same show as some very great evil. But it is being done, and many here need to recognize that and rephrase their criticisms.
     
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  28. BobVigneault

    BobVigneault Bawberator

    It's not the first and it won't be the last that someone has used Jesus to sell Ford, Coke, Nestle and/or AT&T. God bless America. :smug:


    Did I mention that I don't like the show? But I did promise Adam I wouldn't put it down anymore. Sorry Adam, my dander got up and got the best of me.
     
  29. Barnpreacher

    Barnpreacher Puritan Board Junior

    Ahhhhh!! Jeremy, you've been brainwashed by Simon Cowell!!! :)
     
  30. BobVigneault

    BobVigneault Bawberator

    Jeremy, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    So you're a fan of the show, that's fine. I can't say any believer who likes Idol 'makes my blood boil'. Wow! You need to keep this in perspective. Four thousand babies will be murdered today and even more girls are being held in sexual slavery. That's what makes our blood boil.

    Television? I just turn it off.
     
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