Originally posted by Martin Marprelate
Chris asked:-
The "one who comes to me" are the ones the Father has given to the Son, right? These "ones" are one group of people, correct? They're not a separate category of people.
Are you saying there are the ones the Father has given the Son and then there are others the Father has NOT given the Son that will come to Christ?
Chris, don't filter the word through your own preconceptions. You sound as if you're worried that one of the non-elect is going to sneak into heaven while God's not looking! Whoever will may enter! Preach this great truth for all you're worth! But do it knowing that whoever does enter will find that God has loved him from the foundation of the world, and has been drawing him to Himself (Jer 31:3 ). Listen to Spurgeon.
How am I filtering the word through my own preconceptions? How do I err when I was asking you questions in light of the Doctrines of Grace?
With your Spurgeon citation, you are talking about how to preach (of which I agree) I was seeking clarification of what you wrote earlier. You cleared it up, thanks. BTW, God willing, this is exactly how I will preach. Yes, of course, "Whoever will may enter!"
My general point was, no one comes to the Son that the Father hasn't given the Son from the foundation of the world. I know, this is very basic Calvinism and maybe that's why you misunderstood my questions. In retrospect, my questions are suited for a confused Calvinist, not you.
"You sound as if you're worried that one of the non-elect is going to sneak into heaven while God's not looking!"
No, I'm not worried about that happening at all. Because it is I M P O S S I B L E. The ones willing are the same as the ones that WILL come to the Son. Why? Those are the ones that the Father has given him.
We all agree on these truths so I'll just end it here.