Postmillennialists who hold to a literal millennium?

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  1. CDM

    CDM Puritan Board Junior

    I need a list of postmillennialists who hold to a literal 1,000 year millennium. I also need a list of postmillennialists that hold to a figurative millennium (like amillennialists).

    I'll start the lists:



  2. Knoxienne

    Knoxienne Puritan Board Graduate

    I think I'm figurative. :um::)
  3. CNJ

    CNJ Puritan Board Senior

    The Postmil Camp

    I would add
    Kenneth Gentry
    Greg Bahnsen
    Keith Mathison
    Kenneth Talbot (President of Whitefield Seminary)
    Jerry Johnson (Nicene

    I am not aware of any literal Postmil, because none in the Postmil camp have dated that exact 1000 years that would have passed according to this viewpoint. I am still looking at Scripture and reading and cogitating myself. :gpl:

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  4. Confessor

    Confessor Puritan Board Senior

    Bahnsen sees the millennium as encompassing the entire interadventual age, and given the way he states his position in his Victory in Jesus book on postmillennialism, it sounds as if that position is historically more prevalent.

    If it is in fact more prevalent, and considering that more than 1000 years have passed since the first advent, then the pool of possible postmils who hold to a literal millennium would be quite small.

    In fact, it seems almost a guarantee that a literal 1000-year postmillennialist would be in the vast minority.
  5. Peairtach

    Peairtach Puritan Board Doctor

    I think that you might find postmils from e.g. the Seventeenth Century, Eighteenth Century and even later holding to a literal thousand year scheme.

    There's no need to change one's literal postmil position if one is living after AD 1000, because if you were a literal postmil, I assume you might not believe that the thousand years commenced until there were signs of Christian world ascendency e.g. the conversion of the Jews, the conversion of the nations with their governments, the fall of Romanism and false religion.

    The more modern postmils have wisely incorporated the best of amil exegetical insights into their scheme. Amil is postmil in orientation, anyway, without the Golden Age of postmil (and biblical prophecy) - whether that's held to be 1,000 years or longer.
  6. R Harris

    R Harris Puritan Board Sophomore

    I somehow recall that Edwards in his History of Redemption held to a literal 1000 years, and even thought that Peter the Great was going to help get things started. But it has been a while, so I could be wrong on that.
  7. YXU

    YXU Puritan Board Freshman

    No, he said it is a very long period of time.
  8. Spinningplates2

    Spinningplates2 Puritan Board Freshman

    I do not think anyone ever thought it would be only 1,000 years. As no ones thinks that God only owns the cattle on ONLY 1,000 hills.
  9. diverumve

    diverumve Puritan Board Freshman

    I am a fugurative thinker on the postmil side. I don't really think that I know anyone in history that was a literal postmil thousand year thinker.
  10. kalawine

    kalawine Puritan Board Junior

    But there must be some because Bahnsen mentions it. I've never heard him (on MP3) mention any names but he does mention that there are those who believed in a literal 1000 years,
  11. Confessor

    Confessor Puritan Board Senior

    Did Bahnsen specify that these people were postmillenialists? A literal belief sounds more dispensational to me.
  12. kalawine

    kalawine Puritan Board Junior

    Yes, he did specify that they were postmillenialists. I was surprized myself.

    -----Added 5/27/2009 at 11:26:35 EST-----

    I think I heard that from one of these Ben. MP3 - Bahnsen - Why Am I a Postmillennialist?
  13. Dragoon

    Dragoon Puritan Board Freshman

    Technically Augustine (he held all three major positions, at different times in his life) as he thought that Christ would return literally one thousand years after his ascension.
  14. CDM

    CDM Puritan Board Junior

    It was Dr. Smith, of GPTS, one of my professors, who told me / us about the literal postmillers. I'm trying to find sources.
  15. PointyHaired Calvinist

    PointyHaired Calvinist Puritan Board Sophomore

    Our pastor at least leans toward a literal thousand years.
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