Berean
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I personally have no need to hear preaching over the internet.
I do. I think it's an amazing resource we have access to in these times.
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I personally have no need to hear preaching over the internet.
I personally have no need to hear preaching over the internet.
I do. I think it's an amazing resource we have access to in these times.
I do have to admit I was impressed with his sermon in spanish. He did an excellent job for a white guy.
Matthias;616683.[/QUOTE said:No need?? God has seen fit to Bless us with the ability to hear from not only our own local preachers, but great and godly preachers from all over the world living and dead through the internet. I am surprised that anyone would feel they have no need or desire to take advantage of such an amazing gift! I truly feel you are missing out...
I would hope he does not preach to a congregation week after week the way he does in all of his videos on YouTube (where it seems address people like they are all unregenerate). If so, I imagine his sheep are constantly living in doubt and despair.
Oh wait, are you saying that calling people names is better than reasoning with them? Were both calvinist so we both agree that our methods aren't what causes a person to change it's God. However, Id prefer an intellectual discussion or debate over ad hominims any day.
How people arrive at this sort of conclusion from Scriptures is unsettling. They are basically putting themselves above the Lord, the Apostle Paul, and the man in their own signature all in the name of being "intellectual".
Also, I think the abstract preaching that chapin references in a later point is exactly why there is no power in most preaching. A good study of Acts shows that the Gospel is always applied and not treated in abstract "intellectual" categories. There is very little weight in most preaching, b/c it is abstract & treated like a systematic theology. Mr. Washer comes along and says, "you must repent..." and we say he is attacking men and isn't intellectual enough for our refined tastes & that we are too intellectual for that.
I know little to nothing of Mr Washer, but for many it just doesn't matter if you come eating and drinking or fasting.
Actually, I did hear a quote from Mr Washer that I believes best sums this up - "The worst thing that could ever happen to a preacher is that he becomes civilized. It's WORTHLESS! Worthless! One thing I noticed about Leonard Ravenhill - and I'd take 1 Leonard Ravenhill over 11 dead Calvinists - was that he was dangerous. He was dangerous."
God used this man to save my life. If it wasn't for his style of preaching, I wouldn't have been shocked into life. Praise God for men like him.
EDIT: I'm not saying that Washer saved me and I'm not saying that his preaching style saved me. I hope whoever reads this post understands what I'm saying here.
Also, I think the abstract preaching that chapin references in a later point is exactly why there is no power in most preaching. A good study of Acts shows that the Gospel is always applied and not treated in abstract "intellectual" categories. There is very little weight in most preaching, b/c it is abstract & treated like a systematic theology. Mr. Washer comes along and says, "you must repent..." and we say he is attacking men and isn't intellectual enough for our refined tastes & that we are too intellectual for that.
He's good....too bad he isn't Presbyterian!
We are in luck over here, at the 14-15 of July we get to host Paul Washer at a school building, were he will talk to a small group the first day, about church-plant and things like that.
The second day we will invite as many people as possible to come hear him preach.
So now I would like to know...
What are your opinions about Paul Washer?
and maybe some comments on why.
I loved his 2 hour sermon on "The 10 Indictments Against the Modern Church."
I love brother Paul. What's not to love? Passion, zeal for the lost. HEAVILY reformed (a five point Calvinist that also openly mocks "Left Behind" eschatology). Southern Baptist. Expositional.
Again, whats not to love? The people on here that talk about him pointing fingers...you do realize that EVERY prophet and evangelist of God in the bible did this, right?
We are in luck over here, at the 14-15 of July we get to host Paul Washer at a school building, were he will talk to a small group the first day, about church-plant and things like that.
The second day we will invite as many people as possible to come hear him preach.
So now I would like to know...
What are your opinions about Paul Washer?
and maybe some comments on why.
So how did it go?
I love brother Paul. What's not to love? Passion, zeal for the lost. HEAVILY reformed (a five point Calvinist that also openly mocks "Left Behind" eschatology). Southern Baptist. Expositional.
Again, whats not to love? The people on here that talk about him pointing fingers...you do realize that EVERY prophet and evangelist of God in the bible did this, right?
I wouldn't consider him "HEAVILY" Reformed especially considering the fact that he won't use the term Calvinist. He says prefers to be a called a five point Spurgeonist. Remember there is much more to being Reformed than being a five-pointer.
I understand that. But the doctrines of Grace are certainly the preeminent requirement. Washer is a five point, Covenant theologian. He has a reformed soteriology and a reformed eschatology. When speaking in terms of Baptists (of which I am one), you can't get much more reformed than that.
Baptists that DO get more reformed than that, are called "Presbyterians".
curious... Where have you seen or heard him say that he is a CT guy... and a reformed eschatology guy?
I understand that. But the doctrines of Grace are certainly the preeminent requirement. Washer is a five point, Covenant theologian. He has a reformed soteriology and a reformed eschatology. When speaking in terms of Baptists (of which I am one), you can't get much more reformed than that.
Baptists that DO get more reformed than that, are called "Presbyterians".
curious... Where have you seen or heard him say that he is a CT guy... and a reformed eschatology guy?
It was one of his sermons. He was mocking the "Left Behind" books, spoke of the unbiblical nature of some secret pre trib rapture, slammed dispensationalism in general.... I will see if I can find it.
curious... Where have you seen or heard him say that he is a CT guy... and a reformed eschatology guy?
It was one of his sermons. He was mocking the "Left Behind" books, spoke of the unbiblical nature of some secret pre trib rapture, slammed dispensationalism in general.... I will see if I can find it.
Yeah, I would love to reference it. I was curious as to where he stood on the issue. I've heard his "I'm a 5 points Spurgeonist" comment in his "10 Indictments Against the Modern Church"...
I heard a story from a friend that went to a conference Washer was speaking at... the friend said that a guy walked up and asked Washer what his stance is on the end times, his eschatology. Washer replied, as he shook the man's hand, "brother, I've barely wrapped my mind around the gospel." Interesting answer.
See http://www.puritanboard.com/f77/fv-john-piper-doug-wilson-Paul-washer-51186/#post660052
Having some firm sources on if he is CT would be good. I haven't heard him say anything about whether the 10 Commandments are in effect or not; so, as far as I know, he may be NCT.