Eoghan
Puritan Board Senior
Are we adopting a neo-platonic view?
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I prefer the more literal view. We seem to shy away from the more corporeal aspects of this life. The puritans did not shy away from excommunicating thos ewho failed to fulfill their marital obligations (have sex frequently with their spouse) - have not heard of it comming up at church meetings recently though.
I am always wary of taking things allegorically. What are the rules for identifying an allegorical passage?
The New Testament, does it quote Song of Solomon? If so does it do so allegorically? If as some propose it is a metaphor/allegory for the CHURCH I would expect that it is quoted profusely AND in that context.
It is a falsifiable proposition - I'm off to check out if it holds water (Concordance etc...)
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NT References
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8 references?
1. SS 2:1 use of the word "lily" in Luke 12:27 evokes a reference to "lily of the valley" BOTANICAL REFERENCE
2. SS 2:7 "daughters of Jerusalem" in Luke 23:28 is also found in Isaiah, Zephaniah and Zechariah AN ALLUSION?
3. SS 2:16 Pauls emphasis on the reciprosity of sexual relations recalls the mutual belonging in Song of Solomon SEXUAL
4. SS 8:6 Reference to "Hades" found in the OT SS one of a dozen sources dozen CULTURAL/Theological
5. SS 4:4 use of the term "one thousand" in Revelation may be temporal or non-temporal as in a thousand shields (along with 12 other reference) NUMERICAL
6. SS 5:4 "hand" being a euphamism for the male genitalia (also Isa 57:8) SEXUAL
7. SS 5:7 the removing of the cloak was a serious affront Luke 6:29 recalling the Song of Solomon verses CULTURAL
8. SS 8:2There is a parallel in John 14:3 the groom taking the bride to be with him and the SS bride taking the groom to be with her mother???? ALLUSION
In short I can find no direct quotations at all. SS helps understand the culture non-temporal use of numbers etc...
The only "allusion" which might serve as allegory (No.8) has role reversal at it's root - so forgive me if I say the evidence does not support the hypothesis and the proposition is falsified!
Unless of course somebody knows of a direct quotation
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I prefer the more literal view. We seem to shy away from the more corporeal aspects of this life. The puritans did not shy away from excommunicating thos ewho failed to fulfill their marital obligations (have sex frequently with their spouse) - have not heard of it comming up at church meetings recently though.
I am always wary of taking things allegorically. What are the rules for identifying an allegorical passage?
The New Testament, does it quote Song of Solomon? If so does it do so allegorically? If as some propose it is a metaphor/allegory for the CHURCH I would expect that it is quoted profusely AND in that context.
It is a falsifiable proposition - I'm off to check out if it holds water (Concordance etc...)
-----Added 4/16/2009 at 09:36:48 EST-----
NT References
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8 references?
1. SS 2:1 use of the word "lily" in Luke 12:27 evokes a reference to "lily of the valley" BOTANICAL REFERENCE
2. SS 2:7 "daughters of Jerusalem" in Luke 23:28 is also found in Isaiah, Zephaniah and Zechariah AN ALLUSION?
3. SS 2:16 Pauls emphasis on the reciprosity of sexual relations recalls the mutual belonging in Song of Solomon SEXUAL
4. SS 8:6 Reference to "Hades" found in the OT SS one of a dozen sources dozen CULTURAL/Theological
5. SS 4:4 use of the term "one thousand" in Revelation may be temporal or non-temporal as in a thousand shields (along with 12 other reference) NUMERICAL
6. SS 5:4 "hand" being a euphamism for the male genitalia (also Isa 57:8) SEXUAL
7. SS 5:7 the removing of the cloak was a serious affront Luke 6:29 recalling the Song of Solomon verses CULTURAL
8. SS 8:2There is a parallel in John 14:3 the groom taking the bride to be with him and the SS bride taking the groom to be with her mother???? ALLUSION
In short I can find no direct quotations at all. SS helps understand the culture non-temporal use of numbers etc...
The only "allusion" which might serve as allegory (No.8) has role reversal at it's root - so forgive me if I say the evidence does not support the hypothesis and the proposition is falsified!
Unless of course somebody knows of a direct quotation
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