Master's Degrees

Discussion in 'Seminaries, Colleges & Education' started by Johnathan Lee Allen, Mar 21, 2019.

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  1. Johnathan Lee Allen

    Johnathan Lee Allen Puritan Board Freshman

    Howdy folks,

    My wife is thinking about eventually completing her Master's degree (she took a few classes from The Master's College right after her undergrad) some time in the future.

    She just wants straight up Bible. I would like to point her to more reformed (Presbyterian or Reformed) schools that are solid. However, there are other solid options. She would like for it to be all online but might be open to the occasional intensive on campus. We can't relocate that easy.

    What say ye?
     
  2. ZackF

    ZackF Puritan Board Graduate

    Why does she want a masters degree?
     
  3. Johnathan Lee Allen

    Johnathan Lee Allen Puritan Board Freshman

    She has a biblical counseling undergrad and has thought about expanding her education to bolster her counseling abilities. She also works in Christian publishing and Bible knowledge has helped a lot already.

    I encourage her to continue sitting under solid teaching in an academic setting.
     
  4. B.L. McDonald

    B.L. McDonald Puritan Board Freshman

  5. iainduguid

    iainduguid Puritan Board Freshman

    Westminster now has an online MA in Counseling and a more general online MA in Christian Studies. We've received some designated funding that has enabled us to raise the bar on what most people think of as "online education", which I find very exciting. We continue to roll out electives for these including my Biblical Theology of Worship class, and a new class on Christianity and Culture with Bill Edgar (including interviews with Tim Keller and a tour of an art gallery). I'm very excited about the potentiality that online gives us, though we're committed to keeping our MDiv residential because of the formative nature of relationships in pastoral education.
    (Full disclosure: I'm Dean of our Online Learning program).

    Feel free to PM me for more information
     
  6. Scott Bushey

    Scott Bushey Puritan Board Doctor

    TNARS. Free! All online. Intensive.
     
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  7. Taylor Sexton

    Taylor Sexton Puritan Board Junior

    You are studying with them, right? How has your experience been?
     
  8. Scott Bushey

    Scott Bushey Puritan Board Doctor

    Excellent. Work at your own pace. Great material.
     
  9. Johnathan Lee Allen

    Johnathan Lee Allen Puritan Board Freshman

    I've looked at those as well as Calvin Theological Seminary in Michigan. Although I don't know anything about that one.

    There's also a program through Covenant Seminary in St. Louis.
    Thank you! I'll send you something here in a bit. My wife apparently remembers you/your work from when she worked at Crossway.

    I'm so curious about this for even beyond this thread. Can you pm me about this?
     
  10. TheInquirer

    TheInquirer Puritan Board Freshman

    CCEF, which I think is partnering with WTS, also has some very affordable and rigorous classes that I dont believe are degree based. They might be a more affordable option for the educational benefit.

    https://www.ccef.org/school/courses/
     
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  11. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    :eek:
     
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  12. Johnathan Lee Allen

    Johnathan Lee Allen Puritan Board Freshman

    That little face is hilarious. I understand they’ve been less than stellar lately, but is it that pervasive? Is it possible to get a good education there?
     
  13. TheInquirer

    TheInquirer Puritan Board Freshman

    Does she need an actual degree or is the primary purpose educational benefit?
     
  14. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    If someone was well employed and living in the St. Louis area, wanting to keep working while pursuing an education, it should be on their list to consider. If one had a clean slate, it probably should be pretty close to Dubuque on the list.
     
  15. John Yap

    John Yap Puritan Board Freshman

    PRTS may be transitioning to a full online MAR. Check with them
     
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  16. Johnathan Lee Allen

    Johnathan Lee Allen Puritan Board Freshman

    She would like an actual masters but is open to other alternative educational avenues. What did you have in mind?
    We would be staying where we are at here in the Chicagoland for a while. So we wouldn't be in Missouri. What's in Dubuque?
    That would be an ideal choice. She really liked the school when we went for a visit. They are on my list for MDiv. Mid-America Reformed is still my first choice though.
     
  17. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    It used to have the reputation of being the most conservative (or perhaps least liberal) of the PCUSA seminaries.
     
  18. Johnathan Lee Allen

    Johnathan Lee Allen Puritan Board Freshman

    I don’t think that I, in good conscience, could recommend my wife to a PCUSA school. I don't think she’d even consider it!
     
  19. ZackF

    ZackF Puritan Board Graduate

    She’s a new Presbyterian anyway. What does she know?
     
  20. Johnathan Lee Allen

    Johnathan Lee Allen Puritan Board Freshman

    It doesn’t take being a Presbyterian to see a wayward and near apostate denomination.
     
  21. De Jager

    De Jager Puritan Board Freshman

    Be aware that Calvin Seminary leans toward the egalitarian side. For example, they will give an MDiv to a lady there. From what I understand it is fairly academic, and you will think critically, but I get the impression that you will also be exposed to some liberalism. This is just what I have heard.

    I would lean toward RTS, WTS, or PRTS.

    Perhaps you could send a PM to Dr. Duguid, who replied to this thread earlier. :)
     
  22. Johnathan Lee Allen

    Johnathan Lee Allen Puritan Board Freshman

    Yes, and I have done so. The RTS program has freedom in schedule. This would be most agreeable to our current juncture in life. Thank you for the heads up on Calvin Seminary.
     
  23. Jake

    Jake Puritan Board Junior

    Westminster "will give an MDiv to a lady" too, along with Covenant, Erskine, and others.
     
  24. Johnathan Lee Allen

    Johnathan Lee Allen Puritan Board Freshman

    She and I agree that women should not be admitted into programs intended for ordained ministry. However, does Covenant and WTS have the same issues with theological liberalism that Calvin Seminary appears to have? I haven’t heard anything like that especially about WTS.
     
  25. De Jager

    De Jager Puritan Board Freshman

    I guess I suppose that just because they get a degree doesn't mean they will be ordained. But it certainly opens up that possibility.
     
  26. SolamVeritatem

    SolamVeritatem Puritan Board Freshman

    Johnathan,

    Just to clarify, Covenant is not a PCUSA school. It is the official denominational seminary of the PCA, although there is an overture submitted for a vote on the floor of this year’s GA to release the seminary from denimational oversight and accompanying restrictions.

    https://www.pcaac.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Overture-2-NW-GA-CTS.pdf
     
  27. Parakaleo

    Parakaleo Puritan Board Sophomore

    Titus 2:1-5
    But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: that the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; that they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

    1 Timothy 5:14
    I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
     
  28. nickipicki123

    nickipicki123 Puritan Board Freshman

    Does RPTS have an online Masters in Theology?
     
  29. nickipicki123

    nickipicki123 Puritan Board Freshman

    What do these verses have to do with the OP's question?
     
  30. Scott Bushey

    Scott Bushey Puritan Board Doctor

    Nicki,
    I believe Blake was making the point that woman are generally called to be homemakers.
     
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