What does the 1689 guy mean? LBCF- National Israel was a type of church, the true israel? LBCF- The church is the eschatological Church of Old Testament Prophecy SIDE NOTE - is this saying... 1-That the visible church is the new israel? 2-The invisible church is the true Israel, if so then why give the visible the sign? 3-OR does "true" mean NT church, and true does not mean spiritual How does the WCF guy differ from those two statements? And Do 1689 baptist guys believe that the church and Israel are two different peoples of God with two different promises and destinations?