John Frame's Newest Tome

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  1. greenbaggins

    greenbaggins Administrator Staff Member

  2. NaphtaliPress

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    There is a not so favorable review of the chapters on the second commandment in the forthcoming 2008 issue of The Confessional Presbyterian; perhaps one of the longest of a set of reviews of recent worship material by Dr. Frank Smith.
     
  3. greenbaggins

    greenbaggins Administrator Staff Member

    I didn't agree with Frame on the second commandment either. Nevertheless, I still think the book is well worth purchasing, if for no other reason than his view of the law as a single whole. Plus, one cannot say everything (especially not in a review!)
     
  4. NaphtaliPress

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    Yes; but it is a pretty big "other" shoe that needs dropping.
     
  5. greenbaggins

    greenbaggins Administrator Staff Member

    True, but I am actually trying to get people to buy the book. After all, I did get a free review copy of it. :p
     
  6. NaphtaliPress

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    I guess you and I have different goals on that then.
     
  7. greenbaggins

    greenbaggins Administrator Staff Member

    Are you sure you are not viewing the differences on the second and fourth commandments as the entire essence of the book? We should not throw out the baby with the bathwater on this book.
     
  8. NaphtaliPress

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    If he undermines those subjects for making any changes or reforms in the PCA, how should I view it otherwise? If he were a Lutheran or not in a "confessional" denomination that is one thing; find the good, toss the bad. But he's allowed to undermine sound doctrine with impunity. I think you may have said somewhere that we may have better relations with FVists once they are out of confessionally reformed denominations. How is this different?
     
  9. greenbaggins

    greenbaggins Administrator Staff Member

    I guess, while I certainly view the second and fourth commandments as very important, I am not sure I would label them as central to the Christian faith, especially given the fact that we agree on a good deal of the territory (esp. in the 4th commandment). I see the FV as attacking the central tenets of the Christian faith in the WS. They attack the doctrines of election, covenant, church, justification, baptism, Lord's Supper, perseverance, and assurance. In this book of Frame's, I don't see him attacking nearly as much. On the other hand, I am not sure I would approve him for transfer to my Presbytery, given some of the things he has said about the FV!
     
  10. NaphtaliPress

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    Well, that's the disconnect I guess we live with in the PCA.
     
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