Jerusalem Blade's posts (a partial compilation)

Discussion in 'Translations and Manuscripts' started by Jerusalem Blade, May 23, 2009.

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  1. Jerusalem Blade

    Jerusalem Blade Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    Dear Christian friends,

    I’ve been looking for and collecting these for a while, and am posting them as I recently said I would, for the benefit of those who would like to see a mostly irenic and scholarly presentation of the TR / AV position. I say “mostly irenic” as in some of my earlier postings I was less irenic than now. Irenic does not mean I am softening my position, but rather softening my heart toward dear brothers and sisters who differ with me in textual matters. Hanging out with IFB folks for a while before coming here to PB, I appreciated their bare-knuckled approach to the matter. But here I came into contact with scholarly and godly opponents who protested my approach, as it was their conviction – based upon conscience and scholarship – that they did possess a “legitimate” Bible in the CT versions. I myself address this in the “adequate vs. minute preservation” discussions, and agree with them.

    My mature (& present) attitude can be found in the OP of the “Responding to James White of AOMIN” thread. There is coming a time when all sectors of the true church will be afflicted and persecuted, even in the U.S., and we shall need that cement which holds the house of living stones firm and steady while in tribulation: that cement is genuine friendship. While the foundation is Christ in Scripture, and the pillars are sound doctrine in godly churches, friendship in Christ holds it all together – holds us all together.

    Bitter souls (whatever side they are on) who indulge in stereotyping, inflammatory slanderous remarks, holding opponents in contempt, not only violate the grace our Lord commands us to show one another (as He sustains us by His undeserved grace), they reveal dire illness of the soul, channeling an infernal root of bitterness that indeed defiles many. Some boards allow such; I hope this board does not allow it to continue, for it has made its mark here (and I’m sorry to say I have participated to some extent in it; I would alter some words of mine, but the threads and posts are locked, and not to be changed). So when you may see harsh words I may have spoken, know that I have repented of this bad attitude.

    If we ever find ourselves hidden in a house together, with evil posses outside hunting for us, I want to be known as a friend among friends, all of us in the presence of our mighty Captain, and not as a flaming-tongued disturber of the peace.

    Our opponents will sufficiently try our views of Scripture. It is now to them I will give my attention, starting with Ehrman (I am procuring some of his books to study them).

    I may add to this list, and I will also note here when I get my website (blog) up (not the PB blog). On my PB blog I will duplicate this post.

    In Jesus’ mighty name,

    Steve



    Jerusalem Blade’s posts:


    Answering Alan Kurschner of aomin thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/answering-alan-kurschner-aomin-24839/#post304894

    Hort on early Byz majority: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/answering-alan-kurschner-aomin-24839/#post307360

    Borland essay; Lake, allegation Alexandrian text majority examined: ibid

    W&H text not the same as CT/ET per White: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/answering-alan-kurschner-aomin-24839/#post306418



    Responding to James White of AOMIN thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/responding-james-white-aomin-44382/



    Johannine Comma thread

    Nolan on 1 John 5:7: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/johannine-comma-37481/#post465749

    Minute vs. adequate preservation: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/johannine-comma-37481/index2.html#post467490

    Pickering on the early history of the text: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/johannine-comma-37481/index2.html#post467493

    Holland on 1 John 5:7: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/johannine-comma-37481/index2.html#post468225



    Skepticism and doubt toward the Bible thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/skepticism-doubt-toward-bible-52046/



    KJV / Byz / TR Resources thread

    A lot of material from others, on the internet and hard copy: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/KJV-byz-tr-resources-53502/



    "Phantom Manuscripts"? thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/phantom-manuscripts-20851/#post262198




    WCF 1.8 and CT thread

    Extended quote of Letis on Warfield and WCF 1:8: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/wcf-1-8-ct-40915/index3.html#post510367

    and: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/wcf-1-8-ct-40915/index3.html#post509179

    Burgon on Matt 5:22: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/wcf-1-8-ct-40915/index3.html#post509871

    A summing up: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/wcf-1-8-ct-40915/index5.html#post513835



    KJV-Only Versus Byzantine Superiority thread

    Burgon on John 3:13: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/KJV-only-versus-byzantine-superiority-20221/index2.html#post270927



    Textual Manuscripts thread

    Lane vs. Steve on Alexandrian/W&H (& Asa – Amon): http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/textual-manuscripts-27898/




    What is the authentic New Testament text? thread: (A partial list of contents in the OP)

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/what-authentic-new-testament-text-15134/#post194921

    Quoting Letis’ essay responding to D.A. Carson: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/what-authentic-new-testament-text-15134/#post199947



    CONCERNING ERASMUS (Coats, Cloud, etc): http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/what-authentic-new-testament-text-15134/#post196909

    Letis / Borland on Asa and Amon (Matt 1:7, 10 ESV): http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/what-authentic-new-testament-text-15134/#post197418

    Kirsopp Lake, “It is hard to resist the conclusion that the scribes usually destroyed their exemplars when they had copied the sacred books.”: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/what-authentic-new-testament-text-15134/#post198366




    Do Many Scholars Prefer the Majority Text? thread

    Byz priority: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/do-many-scholars-prefer-majority-text-24589/#post302411



    TTer gone CTer thread (many posts)

    Warfield assertion countered by Lake: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/tter-gone-cter-16956/#post219226



    History of the KJV and TR thread

    Owen on variants (from Letis): http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/history-KJV-tr-19376/index2.html#post243016


    A History Of The Authorized Version thread

    Extended discussion of the Septuagint starting at post #40: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/history-authorized-version-31573/#post389900



    Byzantine readings of Paul thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/byzantine-readings-Paul-32992/

    Pickering and Robinson on “no early Byz mss”: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/byzantine-readings-Paul-32992/#post409938



    Do textual variants give us confidence? thread

    Some posts on the OT text: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/do-textual-variants-give-us-confidence-22188/#post277212


    Verses omitted from the ESV thread

    Extensive Nolan quote: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/verses-ommited-esv-24712/#post303785


    Linguistic Superiority between Geneva and KJV? thread

    Links to “Easter” discussions in KJV: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/linguistic-superiority-between-geneva-KJV-28275/#post343707



    Pascha in Acts 12:4 thread (re “Easter”) thread

    Steve’s input starting in post #10: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/pascha-acts-12-4-a-46832/


    Defending the Lord's Prayer 1 thread (Matt 6)

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/defending-lords-prayer-1-a-27974/#post339309


    Defending the Lord's Prayer 2 thread (Luke 11)

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/defending-lords-prayer-2-a-27979/#post339338



    On Gathering Intelligence and Evidence thread
    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/gathering-intelligence-evidence-14440/


    Why do KJ Only types believe the Westcott and Hort manuscripts are bad? thread (my first post #14)

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/why-do-kj-only-types-believe-westcott-hort-manuscripts-bad-14539/


    pierced/like a lion...need Hebrew help thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/pierced-like-lion-need-hebrew-help-16007/#post204555



    NASB / ESV Revisions?? thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/NASB-esv-revisions-14297/#post207878



    THE ASCENDANCY OF THE CRITICAL TEXT thread (bare-knuckled poem)

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/ascendancy-critical-text-15711/



    On Enoch in Jude thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/Peter-enns-blog-35587/

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/history-authorized-version-31573/index2.html#post391843



    Colossians 1:14 thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/colossians-1-14-a-28457/



    Did Lazarus write the Gospel of John? thread (starting at post #18)

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/did-lazarus-write-gospel-john-31034/



    The Occult in the late 19th, early 20th centuries

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f64/occult-late-19th-early-20th-centuries-34386/


    Inspired in Teachings Only? thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/inspired-teachings-only-35364/




    Biblical Preservation thread (RE: Tischendorf rescued [Codex Sinaiticus] from a waste basket)

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/biblical-preservation-17739/#post223739



    Mark 16:12 thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f44/mark-16-12-a-20445/



    John 7:53-8:11 thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/john-7-53-8-11-a-25089/



    King James Only Movement thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/king-james-only-movement-36217/



    Verbal Plenary Preservation thread

    Discussion of Reformation texts: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/verbal-plenary-preservation-21765/

    Arians in power for 50 years in Greek empire: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/verbal-plenary-preservation-21765/#post273656



    Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, and Granville Sharp thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/titus-2-13-2-Peter-1-1-granville-sharp-18634/



    Farstad & Hodges Vs. Robinson & Pierpont thread

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/farstad-hodges-vs-robinson-pierpont-49200/


    The merits of the A.V. thread

    On Bruce Metzger: http://www.puritanboard.com/f63/merits-v-16705/#post214595
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2009
  2. LawrenceU

    LawrenceU Puritan Board Doctor

    That is a lot of work, Steve. Thanks for compiling it in one location.
     
  3. JM

    JM Puritan Board Professor

    Nice work brother, thank you.

    Just don't forget to knuckle up once in a while...
     
  4. ADKing

    ADKing Puritan Board Junior

    A very hearty "Thank you" not only for the posts themselves but for making the more accessible and organized.
     
  5. DMcFadden

    DMcFadden Puritanboard Commissioner

    Brother, you have singlehandedly gotten me to reconsider the teaching of my college and seminary profs on manuscripts. Your powerful arguments and irenic disposition has moved me off my bias in favor of the critical text due to its too-great reliance upon the Alexandrian manuscripts. I am not in your camp supporting the KJV/TR. However, you have given me a whole new respect for the Byzantine mss.

    Thank you for your blessing to all of us!:pray2:
     
  6. PresbyDane

    PresbyDane Puritanboard Doctor

    Thank you for the work.
     
  7. Jerusalem Blade

    Jerusalem Blade Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    Thanks for your comments, friends!

    I couldn't resist listing a few of the Baptism [and some miscellaneous] posts here also!

    Baptism threads


    John 1:12-13 & baptism revisited thread (A response to Dr. Bob)

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f57/john-1-12-13-baptism-revisited-38633/



    This thread went to 7 pages!
    Why I am now a Baptist thread (11 posts in all, starting with):

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f57/why-i-am-now-baptist-32983/#post407616



    A couple of baptism questions thread (2 posts, starting with):

    http://www.puritanboard.com/f57/couple-baptism-questions-40052/#post495668



    Miscellaneous

    Israel has not been replaced by the church
     
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2009
  8. KSon

    KSon Puritan Board Junior

    Having just left IFB, and having witnessed the 'battles' over the text issue become divisive and a matter of fellowship, I must thank you Elder Rafalsky for the irenic, scholarly tone your posts have taken. A tone such as this must be taken when discussing a topic that has many godly men on either side of it. That is the only way it is truly edifying. Having become used to a tone that had moved away from that of Burgon, Mauro, and Hills, it is refreshing to hear the case for the TR presented without the bombast. Thank you for the work in compiling these links.
     
  9. Jerusalem Blade

    Jerusalem Blade Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    I'm bringing this up into the present as I'm still adding to it (in the first post).
     
  10. Pergamum

    Pergamum Ordinary Guy (TM)

    Wow!
     
  11. Herald

    Herald Administrator Staff Member

    Steve,

    Thank you for your words in the OP. While I may differ with some of your conclusions, I am in unison with your irenic spirit.
     
  12. Robert Truelove

    Robert Truelove Puritan Board Sophomore

    Ditto!

     
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