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Do people still call themselves YRR or do they just go by the Gospel Coalition now?
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I visited TGC yesterday out of habit. The top story was about how singing is literally the worse thing ever, like, really, the worse.The Gospel Coalition appears to be a complete train wreck at this point unfortunately.
I visited TGC yesterday out of habit. The top story was about how singing is literally the worse thing ever, like, really, the worse.
Be sure to also read the follow up article “10 ways not to die during congregational singing” and “5 steps to humming hymns”Groan. Now I have to go look at it.
I hate myself now.Be sure to also read the follow up article “10 ways not to die during congregational singing” and “5 steps to humming hymns”
My opinion of New Calvinism is probably softer than others. This lecture from Rev. Wood of the FCC encouraged me to not be overly critical. Truthfully many have come into a better understanding of Reformed theology through New Calvinism. I was personally assisted by TGC when I was brand new to predestination. I am perhaps not as soft as Rev. Wood is though.
As for their articles about humming and not singing, no wonder they don't want to sing! I wouldn't sing some of the stuff that is popular in those churches, EP or not!
Man, I would have been better off revisiting P&P.I hate myself now.
Man, I would have been better off revisiting P&P.
Once again this is just patently false. One or two NAPARC ministers a year "crossing the Tiber" out of hundreds doesn't an epidemic make. Rome is dying on the withered vine. The RCC is the USA is bit more conservative than Europe and South America and so that gives a false impression. Even with that concession for every AB Chaput there are 20 liberal bishops. Most intellectual converts (including pastors) to Rome are larping. They live in past relying on Aquinas, Chesterton, Medieval Christendom and the mechanical nature of so-called "apostolic succession" to console them while going to weekly Mass presided by Father Fluff and Sister Anger. Pastor Bruce had it correctly on a thread in the past, Rome is fools gold. She just appeared to be a lot shinier version in 1870 or even 1950 than now. A near lifelong, dear and loyal friend and his family are RC. I pray that God's grace breaks through.Yeah I've never understood but there seems to be an epidemic of young Reformed men travelling to EO or RCC. Does anyone know of any reasons for this? Sorry also a bit off topic. Does it relate to New Calvinism? Calvinism without roots?
Once again this is just patently false. One or two NAPARC ministers a year "crossing the Tiber" out of hundreds doesn't an epidemic make. Rome is dying on the withered vine. The RCC is the USA is bit more conservative than Europe and South America and so that gives a false impression. Even with that concession for every AB Chaput there are 20 liberal bishops. Most intellectual converts (including pastors) to Rome are larping. They live in past relying on Aquinas, Chesterton, Medieval Christendom and the mechanical nature of so-called "apostolic succession" to console them while going to weekly Mass presided by Father Fluff and Sister Anger. Pastor Bruce had it correctly on a thread in the past, Rome is fools gold. She just appeared to be a lot shinier version in 1870 or even 1950 than now. A near lifelong, dear and loyal friend and his family are RC. I pray that God's grace breaks through.
Believe me I know. That old wrinkled t-shirt is in my drawer. I was once an avid poster on Steve Rays forums in the early/mid 2000s.A lot of truth to the above but I would add converts also have a real belief in transubstantiation. They believe John 6 teaches that in light of the writings of the early church.
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"fools gold" is a good way to put it. James White has mentioned that he knows people who converted only to regret it 10 years down the road.Believe me I know. That old wrinkled t-shirt is in my drawer. I was once an avid poster on Steve Rays forums in the early/mid 2000s.
Once again this is just patently false. One or two NAPARC ministers a year "crossing the Tiber" out of hundreds doesn't an epidemic make. Rome is dying on the withered vine. The RCC is the USA is bit more conservative than Europe and South America and so that gives a false impression. Even with that concession for every AB Chaput there are 20 liberal bishops. Most intellectual converts (including pastors) to Rome are larping. They live in past relying on Aquinas, Chesterton, Medieval Christendom and the mechanical nature of so-called "apostolic succession" to console them while going to weekly Mass presided by Father Fluff and Sister Anger. Pastor Bruce had it correctly on a thread in the past, Rome is fools gold. She just appeared to be a lot shinier version in 1870 or even 1950 than now. A near lifelong, dear and loyal friend and his family are RC. I pray that God's grace breaks through.
The BCP has the Great Litany and I've used it often when I can't pray so I can attest to a weak faith at times that is encouraged by liturgy.
Well I certainly wasn't referring to just a few pastors. I've heard of quite a few young men (pastors or not) traveling into EO. Probably not an epidemic. I apologize for over-exaggeration.Once again this is just patently false. One or two NAPARC ministers a year "crossing the Tiber" out of hundreds doesn't an epidemic make. Rome is dying on the withered vine. The RCC is the USA is bit more conservative than Europe and South America and so that gives a false impression. Even with that concession for every AB Chaput there are 20 liberal bishops. Most intellectual converts (including pastors) to Rome are larping. They live in past relying on Aquinas, Chesterton, Medieval Christendom and the mechanical nature of so-called "apostolic succession" to console them while going to weekly Mass presided by Father Fluff and Sister Anger. Pastor Bruce had it correctly on a thread in the past, Rome is fools gold. She just appeared to be a lot shinier version in 1870 or even 1950 than now. A near lifelong, dear and loyal friend and his family are RC. I pray that God's grace breaks through.
Well I certainly wasn't referring to just a few pastors. I've heard of quite a few young men (pastors or not) traveling into EO. Probably not an epidemic. I apologize for over-exaggeration.
Exactly. You make good points. The pornocray. What bout Avignon "papacy". How many popes?Something like that. There is a pattern among the YRR types to "jump to another tradition" simply because they don't have a good foundation in Reformed theology. When you reduce all of theology to 5 Points and a Passion conference, what can you expect?
It's not a lot, though, simply because there aren't that many people jumping, despite what the blogs say.
And people who read Chesterton and the middle ages are larping. I like to ask, "Which Middle Ages?" The pornocracy of the 9th century? Or do we just mean Thomas Aquinas (whose views weren't always welcome)?
And Chesterton was simply an inferior theologian. Even legitimate Thomist scholars ridicule his book on Thomas.
On the RC side, I imagine an interesting project would be to comb Marcus Grodi's "coming home network" for pastors who come from a Reformed( or to be generous Reformedish) backgrounds and multiply it by say 5 to create a numerator. Use a denominator from an estimate of total pastors from NAPARC plus Reformed/Reformedish Baptist and other denominations reasonably included. I still say that fatality rate, to use a timely metaphor, would be low.EO online (all of whom are Western converts) loudly proclaim how Reformed pastors are joining daily. It's so irritating, not least because it is false.
I visited TGC yesterday out of habit. The top story was about how singing is literally the worse thing ever, like, really, the worse.
That’s true enough, the YRR movement was what introduced me to Calvinism. Never truly identified with it though and now I’m just middle aged, grumpy and reformed.I am guessing that no-one identifies as YRR anymore, because most of those who originally did are now middle-aged.