Is the US national anthem taught in school?

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  1. Somerset

    Somerset Puritan Board Junior

    I've noticed on u tube clips from the USA that when the anthem is played everybody seems to know the words. I'm also very impressed with the way everyone stands tall and proud. Over here most people just know the first line - when our football fans start singing it I cringe as the sound diminishes so quickly. So many people here chat, chew gum, slouch or just look bored when it is played. David Beckham is an honourable exception, you can tell he is so proud of playing for his country. David is a good family man, but far from a rocket scientist - so if he can learn it, all can learn it.

    End of rant.
     
  2. TexanRose

    TexanRose Puritan Board Sophomore

    Well, our national anthem actually has multiple stanzas, and I doubt that most know any more of it than the first verse (I don't either). It's worth learning as a whole, though, in my opinion, and I hope to learn it with my children at some point.

    "Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
    Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
    Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
    And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.' "
     
  3. Jack K

    Jack K Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    I don't remember learning it in school, though some kids might. But it's sung (with the words) all the time at sporting events and ceremonies. I think that's how most Americans come to appreciate it and learn it.

    As songs go, it seems to me to be less stirring and harder to sing than other nations' anthems.
     
  4. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritan Board Doctor

    I learned it at Cub scouts and elementary school.
     
  5. Zach

    Zach Puritan Board Junior

    We were not taught it in school, it is just sung before all sporting events.
     
  6. Rufus

    Rufus Puritan Board Junior

    As a High Schooler I've never "learned it", however at every assembly we stand with hand over heart when it is played, and I don't know all the words but I could probably guess my way through it. The United States is, even in least bits, probably by far more Patriotic than the United Kingdom (can't say this for sure), we do the pledge every morning at school and I highly doubt I know someone who doesn't know all the words to it.
     
  7. Scottish Lass

    Scottish Lass Puritan Board Doctor

    I can't remember being taught the anthem in school per se, but the first stanza is sung frequently enough that it's pretty easy to pick up. But it's tough to sing compared to many other countries.
     
  8. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    In Texas, they don't sing the national anthem in school, but they start each morning with the Pledge to the American flag and the Pledge to the Texas flag. The latter can cause culture shock to those moving in from other states. Foreign nationals can stand quietly and respectfully during the pledges.

    For those not familiar with it: "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible."
     
  9. Quatchu

    Quatchu Puritan Board Sophomore

    As a Canadian I never remember learning the Canadian Anthem I just always knew it. I'm assuming i was tough it in school as its not something I would catch on by my self nor would my parents think once about teaching me. In Canadian schools we sing the anthem everyday Its bound to be internalized.
     
  10. PhilA

    PhilA Puritan Board Sophomore

    The patriotic song that became the National Anthem of the United Kingdom is relatively modern in its usage and is sung in support of the monarchy. Presumably played in the dozen or so countries the queen is still constitutional monarch.

    As for Mr Beckham, who I would not acknowledge as a good role model, he is of course singing the anthem of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland whilst playing for England!
    Looking bored when it is being played and not singing, look no further than the Queen. You will find me singing it only after we see her!

    If you sing it Ken, how would we know if you were singing with pride for England, United Kingdom or Bermuda?:D
     
  11. Miss Marple

    Miss Marple Puritan Board Junior

    I learned it in public school, sang it at least once a week in the 1960s.

    And I teach it in our home school -

    all four stanzas. . .
     
  12. Bill The Baptist

    Bill The Baptist Puritan Board Senior

    The tune to The Star Spangled Banner was originally an English drinking song, which explains why no one can sing it.
     
  13. Skyler

    Skyler Puritan Board Graduate

    I can sing it. I'm not sure what that means.
     
  14. he beholds

    he beholds Puritan Board Doctor

    I'm not even sure which one is the National Anthem: Star Spangled Banner? (Is Spangled the right word? A word at all? I'm going crazy.) Or America the Beautiful? I know I learned America the Beautiful in elementary music class and probably thought that was our anthem, but that's definitely not the one sang at ball games.
     
  15. SRoper

    SRoper Puritan Board Senior

    We learned the first stanza of the national anthem in music class at our public elementary school (that is, state primary school--just learned from Carl Trueman that public school means something rather different across the pond). The other stanzas are rarely sung (in fact I've only seen them written and have not once heard them).
     
  16. Miss Marple

    Miss Marple Puritan Board Junior

    Oh, dear me. It is the "Star Spangled Banner."

    It saddens me that Americans don't know that. I am rather patriotic and I deplore the poor promotion of basic patriotic values such as this.
     
  17. Carolyn

    Carolyn Puritan Board Freshman

    The students at our school learned all four verses. I was impressed.
     
  18. Tripel

    Tripel Puritan Board Senior

    I wish "America the Beautiful" was our national anthem. It is greatly superior in tune and lyric to what we currently have.

    "The Star Spangled Banner" has an awkward tune, and it's all about the flag rather than the country.
     
  19. he beholds

    he beholds Puritan Board Doctor

    Yeah, I'm thankful to live here because I am free to worship the Lord and raise my kids the way I choose, and it's a beautiful country and I have a beautiful life, but I'm happy with the level of patriotic-indoctrination I've received (or didn't receive).
     
  20. Miss Marple

    Miss Marple Puritan Board Junior

    Daniel, it's my understanding that the "Star Spangled Banner" is originally a four stanza poem by Francis Scott Key. I don't recall who set the tune for the first stanza, which was adopted eventually (by Congress I suppose) to be our national anthem.

    Read as a poem, I think it is quite stellar.

    The flag is used as a metaphor. The scene is a Revolutionary War battle, and the author is on a boat, having been captured by the British, yearning to see whether the Americans have held the Fort (McHenry?) overnight. He can occasionally see the flag still there with the illumination of bombs/'rockets', but is often in the dark, trying to discern from noise and huzzahs whether we have prevailed. In the morning he rejoices that with the morning's first beam he sees the flag, tattered, but still flying over the fort. Further stanza appreciate this event and in the end it is prayer-like, hoping that it will be ever thus where free men stand.
     
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  21. Tripel

    Tripel Puritan Board Senior

    Thanks, you are right. As a poem, it is quite good. The imagery is wonderful, and it part of a great story. But the first stanza alone makes for a weak national anthem, in my opinion. I'd much rather have it as a multi-stanza patriotic song, and take a different national anthem that is easier to be sung by the masses and is more about the country as a whole.
     
  22. ac7k

    ac7k Puritan Board Freshman

    I learned it when I was in Naval Junior ROTC in High School. It was part of my cadet training.
     
  23. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    36 U.S. Code § 301

    (a) Designation.— The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

    (b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—
    (1) when the flag is displayed—
    (A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
    (B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
    (C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
    (2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

    ------

    I don't see anything limiting it to the first verse, although I have not fully researched.
     
  24. he beholds

    he beholds Puritan Board Doctor

    WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT is that? Is that a LAW? If so, is everyone else terrified right now, too?????
     
  25. SRoper

    SRoper Puritan Board Senior

    Yes, the setting is the Battle of Fort McHenry, but it is the War of 1812.
     
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