BobVigneault
Bawberator
Help me out here. We all believe that there is a proper way to worship and that God himself has prescribed certain elements that make up our corporate worship. We vary greatly on what those elements should be.
Some of us will not go to a church because it is not EP or because it prohibits paedo-baptism. Many avoid churches that have P & W teams. Some will not fellowship unless real wine is used in the Lord's Supper.
When I explain the marks of a true church to somebody I tell them to look for 1. the Gospel, 2. the sacraments (baptism & communion), and 3. church discipline. Luther listed seven marks and Calvin listed two.
My questions are asked purely for my own education.
Where does the RWP fit into the marks of the true church?
Is the RWP a matter of polity and it stands apart from the marks or is it included in one of the visible marks?
Can a church be a true church that is in violation of the RWP?
If I am directing a new believer to find a true church, how long of a list do I give them. It can get very complicated and daunting if I include every conviction I have.
Some of us will not go to a church because it is not EP or because it prohibits paedo-baptism. Many avoid churches that have P & W teams. Some will not fellowship unless real wine is used in the Lord's Supper.
When I explain the marks of a true church to somebody I tell them to look for 1. the Gospel, 2. the sacraments (baptism & communion), and 3. church discipline. Luther listed seven marks and Calvin listed two.
My questions are asked purely for my own education.
Where does the RWP fit into the marks of the true church?
Is the RWP a matter of polity and it stands apart from the marks or is it included in one of the visible marks?
Can a church be a true church that is in violation of the RWP?
If I am directing a new believer to find a true church, how long of a list do I give them. It can get very complicated and daunting if I include every conviction I have.