"I'm a Calvinist" documentary

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  1. reaganmarsh

    reaganmarsh Puritan Board Senior

  2. Beezer

    Beezer Puritan Board Freshman

    I saw that clip earlier today as well. I kind of have mixed thoughts on it for some reason.

    I fully subscribe to "Calvinism" as a theological construct and in turn can appreciate efforts to educate others on what it is and why it's important; however, in some ways I've also grown a little fatigued, just a teeny tiny bit, by the blitz of marketing and promos associated with it's resurgence. I'm not sure why I feel so...

    I enjoyed Ian Hamilton's lectures put out by Ligonier titled "Calvinism and the Christian life" and I have numerous books and references on Calvin, but for some reason the shiny sleek hip stuff that has come out as of late doesn't really appeal to me much. It'll probably resonate with many others though and for that I'm happy.

    The "Calvinist" promo reminds me in some ways of Piper's poem "The Calvinist." Remember that one?
  3. Bill The Baptist

    Bill The Baptist Puritan Board Senior

  4. mgkortus

    mgkortus Puritan Board Freshman

    Indeed, this does look like an interesting project. I hope the film does justice to the scope of Calvinism. It seems that the recent resurgence in Calvinism focuses so much on the "Five Points" that it fails to take into consideration the broader teachings of Calvinism, such as in the area of ecclesiology.
  5. Bill The Baptist

    Bill The Baptist Puritan Board Senior

  6. StephenG

    StephenG Puritan Board Freshman

    I'm excited about this. I listen to the Pubcast, it's quite solid. I think Mr. Lanphere will make a great movie.
  7. Verkehrsteilnehmer

    Verkehrsteilnehmer Puritan Board Freshman

    It needs a new name: "I am a neo-calvinist"
  8. reaganmarsh

    reaganmarsh Puritan Board Senior

    The Calvinist, by John Piper: http://www.desiringgod.org/calvinist

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought the two are similar.

    I share the concerns with commercializing Calvinism, but also hope that some good may come of it.

    At any rate, it is interesting to see the recent "Reformed" documentaries (Spurgeon, MLJ).
  9. Matthew1344

    Matthew1344 Puritan Board Freshman

    What is a neo calvinist?

  10. Matthew1344

    Matthew1344 Puritan Board Freshman

    Why make the "Doh" emoji?
  11. zsmcd

    zsmcd Puritan Board Freshman

    The Spurgeon documentary was excellent, I have watched it three times already. :p Still haven't convinced myself to purchase the MLJ one, however.
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  12. Jake

    Jake Puritan Board Junior

    I'm not quite seeing the connection, but neo-calvinism is another name for Kuyperianism. Kuyper's quintessential quote used in describing his theology is: "there is not a square inch in the whole domain of human existence over which Christ, who is sovereign over all, does not cry: ‘Mine!’"

    Here's a good article: http://www.westminsterconfession.org/the-doctrines-of-grace/historic-calvinism-and-neo-calvinism.php
  13. Bill The Baptist

    Bill The Baptist Puritan Board Senior

    Let's just say that Piper is better off sticking with his day job.
  14. reaganmarsh

    reaganmarsh Puritan Board Senior

    In past PB discussions, if memory serves, we have differentiated between the confessional Reformed (Presbyterian or Baptist, though that too is sometimes a point of debate!) and the "new Calvinists" or "neo-Calvinists" who are 5-pointers soteriologically, but are not otherwise confessional. Matt Chandler, John Piper, C.J. Mahaney, many of the SBTS folks, etc. are considered to be in the new/neo camp. Sproul might even be seen as part of that camp as well, some would say, given his subconfessional view on images and his independency. Thus, in this documentary, the new/neo-Calvinists.

    While I am not promoting a contraconfessional position, I am very thankful for how God has used them in this culture to lift up Christ and proclaim his gospel. Piper and Sproul were very influential in my life and that of my family, and for that I give God praise.
  15. Nathan

    Nathan Puritan Board Freshman

    I quite enjoyed "The Calvinist." Have you ever heard his poem entitled "Pilgrim's Conflict with Sloth?"


    May the Lord bless you,

  16. C. Matthew McMahon

    C. Matthew McMahon Christian Preacher

    They already messed it up, and they aren't even out of the gate.

    They are going to tell you that Calvinism = the doctrines of grace. Why not just do another "Amazing Grace" video??

  17. Taylor Sexton

    Taylor Sexton Puritan Board Sophomore

    Then again, isn't there also a difference historically between Neo-Calvinism and New Calvinism? When I think of Neo-Calvinism, I think of Kuyper and Bavinck, not Chandler and Mahaney.
  18. Ask Mr. Religion

    Ask Mr. Religion Flatly Unflappable Staff Member

    Looks to be good. Getting the T-shirt. ;)
  19. Ryan&Amber2013

    Ryan&Amber2013 Puritan Board Sophomore

    Mr. Lanphere and I worship at the same church plant, we are good friends, and we live about 2 minutes away from each other. I definitely think what he desires to do is much needed. I may be wrong, but from talking to him, I think his main focus is to encourage Calvinists to further reform their reformed Theology. In the end, I think he wants to show that there is more to "TULIP" in regards to Calvinism. He wants to lead people in confessional reformed Theology. We worship at a means of grace PCA, we strive to uphold the Lord's Day, we are very confessional, etc. In the past few years, I think he has experienced true confessional reformed Theology and it's outworkings in all areas of life, and he wants to share this with all people, while really trying to reach Calvinists.

    On a side note, that's their little girl next to us in the avatar picture, lol. Our babies were baptized on the same day.
  20. LilyG

    LilyG Puritan Board Freshman

    I thought it might be a little cheesy, too. (Was that an audio clip of Paul Washer in the video?) But it looks like he will be interviewing Michael Horton, Scott R Clark, and James White. So there you go! Gives me hope.
  21. Beezer

    Beezer Puritan Board Freshman

    No, I don't believe there was any audio of Paul Washer in the promo.

    I noticed Joe Thorn was mentioned as one of those who will be interviewed. Is this the same gentlemen who has his confession of faith "1689" tattooed prominently on the top of his hand? That's hardcore. I thought I was bad to the bone for taking my hardcover copy of the Westminster Standards to my progressive PCA church on Sunday's.

    At any rate...
  22. LilyG

    LilyG Puritan Board Freshman


    Oh OK, good.
  23. StephenG

    StephenG Puritan Board Freshman

    Having listened through most of the Pubcast, I see the guys getting more and more confessional, not less. I think the movement is promising.
    On a side note, I really enjoyed Piper's poem.
  24. reaganmarsh

    reaganmarsh Puritan Board Senior

    Hi Taylor,

    You're right -- historically, there is a difference between the two. I've read a number of articles of varying sorts where the neo/new nomenclature is used interchangeably to describe Piper/Chandler, et al; and I will readily concede that most of those articles didn't possess the theological astuteness and precision we typically employ at the PB.
  25. C. M. Sheffield

    C. M. Sheffield Puritan Board Junior

    I think that's being too generous. The resurgence of Calvinism focuses really on a handful of celebrity personalities that espouse "Calvinism" regardless of whether that's borne out in their teaching and church practice. Along with this is the trend of any teaching or practice that is not historically Reformed magically becoming so simply by recieving the imprimatur a professional "reformed" conference speaker/mega-church pastor.
  26. mgkortus

    mgkortus Puritan Board Freshman

    Yes. Christian living and the pursuit of holiness need to be considered essential elements of Calvinism as well.
  27. mgkortus

    mgkortus Puritan Board Freshman

    Pastor Sheffield, you may have a better gauge on this matter than I do. I'm merely drawing from my own (limited) encounters with the recent Calvinistic movement. That said, I would still hesitate to characterize everyone in the "Young, Restless, and Reformed" camp as focusing on a handful of celebrity personalities. This may be true for many, but I doubt it is true for all.
  28. Frosty

    Frosty Puritan Board Sophomore

  29. mgkortus

    mgkortus Puritan Board Freshman

    This is encouraging, and I hope it comes out in the film.
  30. Beezer

    Beezer Puritan Board Freshman

    I uh...I just watched the 2 minute video Randy linked. I wish I hadn't.

    I hope Mr. Lanphere goes forth and does great things!
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