The Piper thread got me thinking about my MANY friends, sadly most, who are being drawn away from the Gospel to NPP and FV. For the friends who have become full blown NPP and FV, how should I consider them? Heretics? Should I fear for their souls? What about the leaders of these movements? I know it's wrong to judge someone's salvation but should I still consider these folks brothers and continue in fellowship with them? I consider my Arminian friends saved just very wrong about their theology. Is NPP and FV along this line or is it something much worse? I'm just really confused about this. Mods may move this if this is in the wrong forum.