Here's my View on Justification:

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WrittenFromUtopia

Puritan Board Graduate
I. Those whom God effectually calls, He also freely justifies;[1] not by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins, and by accounting and accepting their persons as righteous; not for any thing wrought in them, or done by them, but for Christ's sake alone; nor by imputing faith itself, the act of believing, or any other evangelical obedience to them, as their righteousness; but by imputing the obedience and satisfaction of Christ unto them,[2] they receiving and resting on Him and His righteousness by faith; which faith they have not of themselves, it is the gift of God.[3]

II. Faith, thus receiving and resting on Christ and His righteousness, is the alone instrument of justification:[4] yet is it not alone in the person justified, but is ever accompanied with all other saving graces, and is no dead faith, but works by love.[5]

III. Christ, by His obedience and death, did fully discharge the debt of all those that are thus justified, and did make a proper, real and full satisfaction to His Father's justice in their behalf.[6] Yet, in as much as He was given by the Father for them;[7] and His obedience and satisfaction accepted in their stead;[8] and both, freely, not for any thing in them; their justification is only of free grace;[9] that both the exact justice, and rich grace of God might be glorified in the justification of sinners.[10]

IV. God did, from all eternity, decree to justify all the elect,[11] and Christ did, in the fullness of time, die for their sins, and rise again for their justification:[12] nevertheless, they are not justified, until the Holy Spirit does, in due time, actually apply Christ unto them.[13]

V. God does continue to forgive the sins of those that are justified;[14] and although they can never fall from the sate of justification,[15] yet they may, by their sins, fall under God's fatherly displeasure, and not have the light of His countenance restored unto them, until they humble themselves, confess their sins, beg pardon, and renew their faith and repentance.[16]

VI. The justification of believers under the Old Testament was, in all these respects, one and the same with the justification of believers under the New Testament.[17]



Anybody have a problem with this?? I'll fight you.

That's my stance and I'm stickin' to it, no matter how many people I know don't.

God help me.
 

WrittenFromUtopia

Puritan Board Graduate
Originally posted by puritansailor
Is there a point to this emotional public confession?

Is there an unwritten rule on this board to have no sense of humor or charity towards me?

Yes, there is a point. Everyone I know, practically, is becoming either FV or NPP or both. It is very rough on me.
 

Puritanhead

Puritan Board Professor
I like that Gabriel brings up justification... Shame on you Patrick and Chris... Calvinists should be renowned for their dwelling on justification as much as predestination.
:2cents:
 

Scott Bushey

Puritanboard Commissioner
Originally posted by WrittenFromUtopia
Originally posted by puritansailor
Is there a point to this emotional public confession?

Is there an unwritten rule on this board to have no sense of humor or charity towards me?

Yes, there is a point. Everyone I know, practically, is becoming either FV or NPP or both. It is very rough on me.

Everyone take it easy.

Gabriel,
The post was sort of odd. I appreciate your enthusiasm and zeal for orthodoxy. Just preface your posts like this with a simple explanation.
 

WrittenFromUtopia

Puritan Board Graduate
Originally posted by Scott Bushey
Originally posted by WrittenFromUtopia
Originally posted by puritansailor
Is there a point to this emotional public confession?

Is there an unwritten rule on this board to have no sense of humor or charity towards me?

Yes, there is a point. Everyone I know, practically, is becoming either FV or NPP or both. It is very rough on me.

Everyone take it easy.

Gabriel,
The post was sort of odd. I appreciate your enthusiasm and zeal for orthodoxy. Just preface your posts like this with a simple explanation.

I give up.
 

Scott Bushey

Puritanboard Commissioner
Originally posted by WrittenFromUtopia
Originally posted by Scott Bushey
Originally posted by WrittenFromUtopia
Originally posted by puritansailor
Is there a point to this emotional public confession?

Is there an unwritten rule on this board to have no sense of humor or charity towards me?

Yes, there is a point. Everyone I know, practically, is becoming either FV or NPP or both. It is very rough on me.

Everyone take it easy.

Gabriel,
The post was sort of odd. I appreciate your enthusiasm and zeal for orthodoxy. Just preface your posts like this with a simple explanation.

I give up.

Buddy,
Don't give up; You know my heart towards you. Just be more clear. It's all good B! :bigsmile:
 

Puritan Sailor

Puritan Board Doctor
Originally posted by WrittenFromUtopia
Originally posted by puritansailor
Is there a point to this emotional public confession?

Is there an unwritten rule on this board to have no sense of humor or charity towards me?

Yes, there is a point. Everyone I know, practically, is becoming either FV or NPP or both. It is very rough on me.

Gabriel you are being far to sensitive. I simply wished to know the reason for the post. Nothing more.
 

WrittenFromUtopia

Puritan Board Graduate
Originally posted by joshua
I LOVE YOU , MAN! (And I don't want your bud light, b/c you're a beer snob, or something)

Well, if I had a bud light, you could have it. But, that is purely hypothetical, as I would never have a bud light. *sticks nose in air*
 

Puritanhead

Puritan Board Professor
And the avatars come in three sizes... I like mine Supersized!
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Me Died Blue

Puritan Board Post-Graduate
Originally posted by Scott Bushey
Originally posted by WrittenFromUtopia
Originally posted by puritansailor
Is there a point to this emotional public confession?

Is there an unwritten rule on this board to have no sense of humor or charity towards me?

Yes, there is a point. Everyone I know, practically, is becoming either FV or NPP or both. It is very rough on me.

Everyone take it easy.

Gabriel,
The post was sort of odd. I appreciate your enthusiasm and zeal for orthodoxy. Just preface your posts like this with a simple explanation.

Originally posted by puritansailor
Originally posted by WrittenFromUtopia
Originally posted by puritansailor
Is there a point to this emotional public confession?

Is there an unwritten rule on this board to have no sense of humor or charity towards me?

Yes, there is a point. Everyone I know, practically, is becoming either FV or NPP or both. It is very rough on me.

Gabriel you are being far to sensitive. I simply wished to know the reason for the post. Nothing more.

:ditto: Sorry about the misunderstanding, Gabriel. As Scott said, it just seemed sort of "odd." At first I was wondering if it perhaps was an explanatory result of the "Jesus is Lord" discussion on the Gospel in the Wright thread. But as you said...:handshake:
 

Poimen

Puritan Board Post-Graduate
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
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That 'smilie' is really freakin' me out man!

I think I like this one better.
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Gabe though I am a 3FU man, I will not deny the beauty of the WCF on this doctrine. Thank you for your firm stand for the gospel!
 

Scott

Puritan Board Graduate
Gabe: You are EP, right? I must warn you that acceptance of Wright entails singing of Brittish praise choruses in public worship. Just something to consider.
 
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