Romans922
Puritan Board Professor
Depends upon the Baptist local church, as some would see it as bring valid Baptism for first time!
I was speaking according to truth, not according to what is practiced.
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Depends upon the Baptist local church, as some would see it as bring valid Baptism for first time!
Brother, I don't understand why you don't have your family in a place where Christ's ordinances are administered in purity. Why are you trying to get access to a purer administration of the ordinances while refusing to join a church where they are administered purely?No one insists. This underlying tension is just not there like it is when we were going somewhere else. When a child is brought in, I think that would only be amplified
If that's the issue, the real question is how to shepherd your wife to embrace all that Christ has ordained for her good.“But if the division you are speaking of is a division between you and your wife, the situation is not as easy. You have a responsibility not only to lead your wife spiritually but also to do so with gentleness and sacrificial love, taking great care not to exercise authority in a way that drags her to a church that assails her conscience, or makes her take vows she disagrees with, or makes her feel trapped in a foreign faith. Your church decision, then, must not be merely about what you deem best but about what you deem best for her. “
Without going into too much detail, this is the main issue. She’s always been very involved in their church. She’s not the type to read Calvin or Sproul.
Start family worship and go through a book on the basics of reformed theology. Maybe one by Sproul. Just a thought.“But if the division you are speaking of is a division between you and your wife, the situation is not as easy. You have a responsibility not only to lead your wife spiritually but also to do so with gentleness and sacrificial love, taking great care not to exercise authority in a way that drags her to a church that assails her conscience, or makes her take vows she disagrees with, or makes her feel trapped in a foreign faith. Your church decision, then, must not be merely about what you deem best but about what you deem best for her. “
Without going into too much detail, this is the main issue. She’s always been very involved in their church. She’s not the type to read Calvin or Sproul.
Great post, as mode of water Baptism is indeed not a hill to die on, and bring a Reformed Baptist, Spurgeon is to us as Calvin would be to Presbyterian bethren.We used to attend a Calvinist Baptist Church where if people wanted to Baptize a baby the pastor had a Presbyterian pastor friend who would do it, and nobody made a big deal out of it. Frankly I think you should recognize that here at the Puritan Board there are very godly and scholarly men who disagree on the paedo-credo subject, and there is NOTHING wrong with either side, where BOTH have a litany of bible verses to back up their position. I am sure hardly anybody agrees with me, but both sides are valid and biblical and there is no reason to make this primary in choosing a church. When picking your battles, don't pick this.
The main thing is that you have decided not to do a dry baptism as I've seen it called, ie, a baby dedication. For that I commend you.
By the way, if TULIP comes up, use Spurgeon. He was a Baptist, and held firmly to Calvinism while articulating well the mystery of our moral culpability and commands to repent and believe and obey. Most Baptists will interact better with Spurgeon than a Presbyterian on TULIP in my limited experience.
Knowing God would be a good book also to go through and study.Start family worship and go through a book on the basics of reformed theology. Maybe one by Sproul. Just a thought.
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I was posting tongue in cheek, should have put on smily face!I was speaking according to truth, not according to what is practiced.
Oh they definitely do baby dedication. Not in place of baptism though. Arminian tradition?We used to attend a Calvinist Baptist Church where if people wanted to Baptize a baby the pastor had a Presbyterian pastor friend who would do it, and nobody made a big deal out of it. Frankly I think you should recognize that here at the Puritan Board there are very godly and scholarly men who disagree on the paedo-credo subject, and there is NOTHING wrong with either side, where BOTH have a litany of bible verses to back up their position. I am sure hardly anybody agrees with me, but both sides are valid and biblical and there is no reason to make this primary in choosing a church. When picking your battles, don't pick this.
The main thing is that you have decided not to do a dry baptism as I've seen it called, ie, a baby dedication. For that I commend you.
By the way, if TULIP comes up, use Spurgeon. He was a Baptist, and held firmly to Calvinism while articulating well the mystery of our moral culpability and commands to repent and believe and obey. Most Baptists will interact better with Spurgeon than a Presbyterian on TULIP in my limited experience.
Oh they definitely do baby dedication. Not in place of baptism though. Arminian tradition?
He does understand and though he doesn’t love the idea, he doesn’t make a big deal out if it. We’re all just trying to make the right decisions in a non ideal situation.
Typically, for a Presbyterian church to baptize an infant, the parents need to be a member in the church.
Not a requirement in the PCA BCO. There is a certain tension between 56-3 (presented by one or both parents or some other responsible party) and 56-4 (exhort the parents). [Emphasis Supplied]
It's probably very rare.
Typically, for a Presbyterian church to baptize an infant, the parents need to be a member in the church.
to do so with gentleness and sacrificial love, taking great care not to exercise authority in a way that drags her to a church that assails her conscience, or makes her take vows she disagrees with, or makes her feel trapped in a foreign faith.
Should we just baptize the baby at the Presbyterian Church but to maintain unity with the family continue to attend the Baptist church? Or some other idea?
Wasn’t trying to be totally dishonest. No malice was intended.
I value the reformed perspective. Was watching Douglas Wilson’s video on the issue and that’s what led me to ask here. Wasn’t trying to be totally dishonest. I just didn’t think I would be able to ask or that you would answer my question if I asked from an Anglican perspective. You can’t join the forum to ask anything without being reformed. It was still a legit question. I just wanted to cut straight to the issue of Baptism and not debate people as to why i wasn’t Presbyterian. No malice was intended. I will say that it was very interesting seeing the similarities and differences in response between the two perspectives. All appreciated. The prayers are appreciated too. We ALL need prayer, BL, even those who have it all figured out.