Exclusive Psalmody and the Unity and Authority of the Church

[MOSES]

Does he deny that the RPW applies to private/family worship?

Either he must, or he has two sets (sort of speak) of standards for RPW, one for what is proper in the church and one for what is proper in private (but the standard should be "what is proper in worship, period")...Either way, it seems rather inconsistent.

 

[Reformed Covenanter]

Does he deny that the RPW applies to private/family worship?

Either he must, or he has two sets (sort of speak) of standards for RPW, one for what is proper in the church and one for what is proper in private (but the standard should be "what is proper in worship, period")...Either way, it seems rather inconsistent.

 

[Casey]

Fair enough.

 

[CalvinandHodges]

Hi:

Michael Bushell is revising and updating, The Songs of Zion. I heard that about a year ago. When the newly revised edition will come out I am not sure.

By the way, wasn't there supposed to be a debate about EP here in the debate forums?

-CH

 

[Reformed Covenanter]

Hi:

Michael Bushell is revising and updating, The Songs of Zion. I heard that about a year ago. When the newly revised edition will come out I am not sure.

By the way, wasn't there supposed to be a debate about EP here in the debate forums?

-CH

That's interesting; as the present edition itself is a revision.

 

[AV1611]

That's interesting; as the present edition itself is a revision.

Hopefully it will interact with recent criticisms of EP.

 

[Blueridge Believer]

Many thanks to brother and sister Dohms for helping me to learn these beautiful songs. This is a great help:

SermonAudio.com - Fifty Psalm Singing Tunes

 

[Blueridge Believer]

BTW, maybe we can talk them into doing another 100 of them!

 

[Backwoods Presbyterian]

Do y'all recommend the spilt leaf edition or the "solid" page edition, or does it matter?

 

[Blueridge Believer]

Do y'all recommend the spilt leaf edition or the "solid" page edition, or does it matter?

I wouldn't know the difference. Maybe one of the good brethren will explain it to us.

 

[Galatians220]

Do y'all recommend the spilt leaf edition or the "solid" page edition, or does it matter?

Split-leaf... Then you can sing different psalms to different tunes. You can sing, for example, Psalm 23 to "Crimond" or "Ballerma" whatever other tune fits with the words. (I'm referring, of course, to the 1650 Scottish Metrical Psalmody, which is the only one I've used outside of our visits to churches in Grand Rapids.) Split-leaf makes it seem less as though one is singing hymns and more as though the tunes are secondary to the psalms themselves, at least In my humble opinion. And that's good.

Makes everything a lot easier, of course, if you can read music, if you have a precentor, or if the congregation gathers at someone's home or some place for a "psalm-sing" so that we can practice the tunes. (Uh, I play the tunes on my piano at home if someone is unfamiliar with a tune. So an instrument does figure in there! )

I can't get along with psalters with just words and no music... We have some, but they're for people who grew up with the tunes and a precentor is available.

I just wish that some publisher would make available a more affordable split-leaf psalter, maybe in a good-quality, paperback edition, for start-up congregations like ours. We could then loan out psalters to people who attend regularly but are kind of uncertain about the tunes. As it is now, the psalters that we have are just too expensive to loan out...

Margaret

 

[Glenn Ferrell]

Split-leaf... Then you can sing different psalms to different tunes. You can sing, for example, Psalm 23 to "Crimond" or "Ballerma" whatever other tune fits with the words. (I'm referring, of course, to the 1650 Scottish Metrical Psalmody, which is the only one I've used outside of our visits to churches in Grand Rapids.) Split-leaf makes it seem less as though one is singing hymns and more as though the tunes are secondary to the psalms themselves, at least In my humble opinion. And that's good.

At SRPC in Boise, we use the TBS, words only, editions of Psalms of David in Metre (1650 Scottish Psalter), specifically because they do not tie a single tune to a particular Psalm. Our congregation is not the most musically inclined and we're learning to sing Psalms. However, using the words only Psalters, with even a dozen or so familiar Common Meter tunes, and a couple Long Meter and Short Meter tunes, one can sing the entire Psalter.

It helps to print the name of the tune in the bulletin and/or announce it before singing, to aid people in learning the tunes by name. After the congregation is familiar with a dozen of so tunes, you can add new ones one at a time.

I observed use of the TBS Psalters in Free Church Continuing congregations in Scotland. Of course, folk there are so familiar with the tunes and Psalms, one can name a Psalm and tune and people can often sing without any Psalter at all.

 

[jaybird0827]

Do y'all recommend the spilt leaf edition or the "solid" page edition, or does it matter?

I wouldn't know the difference. Maybe one of the good brethren will explain it to us.

I recommend The Scottish Psalmody, 1992 Staff edition. Our congregation uses it.

In my humble opinion it is the best combination of quality tunes and 1650 Metrical Psalms. It's a bit on the pricey side. You can get these through Crown & Covenant, but last time I looked there you had to go to the "International Psalters" page.

 

[Backwoods Presbyterian]

For the ARP brethren, from 1900...