sparkmanrl
Puritan Board Freshman
Hello all,
I need some help regarding evaluating the reasonableness of an assertion regarding my understanding of the phrase "elementary principles", particularly from someone who has original language training.
I have no original language training so I hesitate to make assertions that could cause me to be discredited. I generally try to double-check my thinking before using an argument in a discussion.
So, my focus is the book of Galatians and Colossians.
The phrase "elementary principles" (stoicheion kosmos)is mentioned in Colossians 2:8, Galatians 4:3.
Often, those who teach that the Saturday Sabbath, annual festivals of Leviticus 23, and clean meat laws of Leviticus 11 still apply under the New Covenant will apply this phrase "elementary principles" to pagan religion exclusively, and will strongly disagree with the possibility that it could also be applied to elements of the Sinai Covenant, particularly to the calendar observations and dietary laws. I was in this camp myself, but I am not anymore. I am speaking particularly about darker Hebrew Roots Movement and Armstrongite groups.
The book of Galatians challenges their views, but they assert that Galatians is addressed solely to pagan converts, rather than Jewish converts or both. For instance, Galatians 4:10 is attributed exclusively to pagan converts.
Here's my assertion, though...1) the epistle was addressed to converts of both types and 2) the phrase "elementary principles of the world" applies to Judaism AND pagan religion.
I believe the phrase "elementary principles" is talking about pursuing God or the spiritual through "fleshly religion" which uses the types and shadows and explicit mechanistic commandments rather than "spiritual religion" which is guided by the Holy Spirit. "Fleshly religion" has no real power to deal with the flesh in terms of defeating sin, and "spiritual religion" has the transforming power of the Holy Spirit, which can deal effectively with sin. I would refer to Galatians 5:16ff in this regard.
I think the same analysis could be applied to Colossians 2, and that Paul was speaking of "elementary principles of the world" in the same manner.
I may be wrong on this issue, but if not, it puts a lot of things into place for me in terms of understanding Galatians. I would rather be humiliated amongst other Reformed believers than the types of people I'm addressing They're more merciful.
I suppose some may view Romans 7:14 as being counter to this understanding...however if the issue is "separation commandments" maybe not.
I am also wondering if Paul's primary argument in Galatians and Colossians was related to "separation commandments" such as Sabbath, festivals, clean/unclean meats, clothing laws, and physical circumcision, or whether it encompassed the entire Mosaic Covenant. Regarding these "separation commandments", I use this phrase in regards to elements of the Mosaic Covenant that were amoral in nature, but were meant to keep Israel separate from the Gentiles. These "separation commandments" kept them from social interaction with the Gentiles in order to prevent idolatry but were not enduring moral laws. I view them as being part of the "wall of hostility" mentioned in Ephesians 2:13-15.
Those "separation commandments" regarding the Sinai Covenant are usually their primary discussion points.
I need some help regarding evaluating the reasonableness of an assertion regarding my understanding of the phrase "elementary principles", particularly from someone who has original language training.
I have no original language training so I hesitate to make assertions that could cause me to be discredited. I generally try to double-check my thinking before using an argument in a discussion.
So, my focus is the book of Galatians and Colossians.
The phrase "elementary principles" (stoicheion kosmos)is mentioned in Colossians 2:8, Galatians 4:3.
Often, those who teach that the Saturday Sabbath, annual festivals of Leviticus 23, and clean meat laws of Leviticus 11 still apply under the New Covenant will apply this phrase "elementary principles" to pagan religion exclusively, and will strongly disagree with the possibility that it could also be applied to elements of the Sinai Covenant, particularly to the calendar observations and dietary laws. I was in this camp myself, but I am not anymore. I am speaking particularly about darker Hebrew Roots Movement and Armstrongite groups.
The book of Galatians challenges their views, but they assert that Galatians is addressed solely to pagan converts, rather than Jewish converts or both. For instance, Galatians 4:10 is attributed exclusively to pagan converts.
Here's my assertion, though...1) the epistle was addressed to converts of both types and 2) the phrase "elementary principles of the world" applies to Judaism AND pagan religion.
I believe the phrase "elementary principles" is talking about pursuing God or the spiritual through "fleshly religion" which uses the types and shadows and explicit mechanistic commandments rather than "spiritual religion" which is guided by the Holy Spirit. "Fleshly religion" has no real power to deal with the flesh in terms of defeating sin, and "spiritual religion" has the transforming power of the Holy Spirit, which can deal effectively with sin. I would refer to Galatians 5:16ff in this regard.
I think the same analysis could be applied to Colossians 2, and that Paul was speaking of "elementary principles of the world" in the same manner.
I may be wrong on this issue, but if not, it puts a lot of things into place for me in terms of understanding Galatians. I would rather be humiliated amongst other Reformed believers than the types of people I'm addressing They're more merciful.
I suppose some may view Romans 7:14 as being counter to this understanding...however if the issue is "separation commandments" maybe not.
I am also wondering if Paul's primary argument in Galatians and Colossians was related to "separation commandments" such as Sabbath, festivals, clean/unclean meats, clothing laws, and physical circumcision, or whether it encompassed the entire Mosaic Covenant. Regarding these "separation commandments", I use this phrase in regards to elements of the Mosaic Covenant that were amoral in nature, but were meant to keep Israel separate from the Gentiles. These "separation commandments" kept them from social interaction with the Gentiles in order to prevent idolatry but were not enduring moral laws. I view them as being part of the "wall of hostility" mentioned in Ephesians 2:13-15.
Those "separation commandments" regarding the Sinai Covenant are usually their primary discussion points.