Die Gedanken Sind Frei

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  1. a mere housewife

    a mere housewife Not your cup of tea

    I love this song so much.



    From the information below the video:
    Legend claims this song goes back to the Bundshuh rebellion of 1525 when the peasants rebelled against their oppression by the Swabian princes. The revolt was a failure, and serfdom continued for another three hundred years in Germany (the words to this song first appeared on leaflets in 1780).

    The concept of "freedom of thought" has nearly always been considered dangerous, and the song was banned for many years before the 1848 revolution, especially as it was seen to be associated with the ideals of the French Revolution. It was widely sung in pre-Hitler Germany and brought to the USA by German immigrants fleeing Nazi-Germany. It is also said to have been sung in German concentration camps between 1933 and 1945. The original lyricist and composer are unknown.


    Die Gedanken Sind Frei, my thoughts freely flower,
    Die Gedanken Sind Frei, my thoughts give me power,
    No Scholar can map them, no hunter can trap them,
    No man can deny, Die Gedanken Sind Frei!

    I think as I please and this gives me pleasure,
    My conscience decrees this right I must treasure,
    My thoughts will not cater to duke or dictator,
    No man can deny, Die Gedanken Sind Frei!

    And should tyrants take me and throw me in prison,
    My thoughts will burst free like blossoms in season,
    Foundations will crumble and structures will tumble,
    And free men will cry, Die Gedanken Sind Frei!

    And now I renounce forever my sorrows,
    And never again to fret my tomorrows,
    I'll always have laughter and joy ever after,
    For in my heart I'll sing, Die Gedanken Sind Frei!
     
  2. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Senior

    I submit a request that the thread title be corrected to read Frei rather than Frie.
     
  3. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Senior

    The German lyrics and a translation are available on Wikipeeja.
     
  4. a mere housewife

    a mere housewife Not your cup of tea

    I second the motion! ... sorry about that. My i before e rules are shaky in English ... let alone German.
     
  5. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Senior

    In German ie is always pronounced like the English ee,
    while ei is always pronounced like the English eye.

    The nice thing about German is that spelling and pronunciation rules are consistent.
     
  6. Susan777

    Susan777 Puritan Board Freshman

    Das ist recht!
     
  7. a mere housewife

    a mere housewife Not your cup of tea

    I will trust you both implicitly. I only know how to ask for a lemonade in German.
     
  8. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Senior

    I don't mean to turn this thread into a German lesson, but I think you mean, "Das ist richtig." :)
     
  9. a mere housewife

    a mere housewife Not your cup of tea

    My implicit trust is shattered in pieces.
     
  10. Susan777

    Susan777 Puritan Board Freshman

    You are right. I had one year of German in high school and that was over 50 years ago. Jetz kan ich nicht die deutsche sprechen. But it’s such a cool language, isn’t it!
     
  11. wcf_linux

    wcf_linux Puritan Board Freshman

    I did a summer intensive almost 14 years ago, and somehow managed to slink through a grad school reading exam on it a decade ago. A lovely language, but it always boggled by mind and addled my brain more than any other language for some reason.
     
  12. PuritanCovenanter

    PuritanCovenanter Moderator Staff Member

    82798798_2734558453295981_8030232149250539520_n.jpg I have had friends who can speak German tell me this is old German. They couldn't tell me precisely what it was. It comes from my Schmidt heritage.

    What is this?

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  13. Susan777

    Susan777 Puritan Board Freshman

  14. PuritanCovenanter

    PuritanCovenanter Moderator Staff Member

    It is idolatry I am sure. I need to edit the picture.
     
  15. Stephen L Smith

    Stephen L Smith Moderator Staff Member

    It is speaking in tongues. This is a non Charismatic forum :)
     
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  16. bookish_Basset

    bookish_Basset Puritan Board Freshman

    It's a collection of sermons on the gospels...The last picture is the sermon for the first Sunday in Advent, I think... Oh dear, I really want to translate this, but I need to do my real job. Maybe later, or hopefully someone else's German reading ability is better :)
     
  17. Susan777

    Susan777 Puritan Board Freshman

    You can read old German script? Wow! Impressive:applause:
     
  18. bookish_Basset

    bookish_Basset Puritan Board Freshman

    It's more like I can puzzle my way through old German script on the basis of past study of modern German, and neither one is fluent. But it's fun. :)
     
  19. Tom Hart

    Tom Hart Puritan Board Senior

    This is not Old German, it is modern German. This book is from the late 19th century.

    I can read the script (my grandparents used to have books written in Frakturschrift lying around their house) but I'm not familiar enough with the vocabulary to make a complete translation very quickly.

    The title page says,

    Evangelisches Hauspredigtbuch
    Predigten
    über die Evangelien
    an sämmtlichen
    Sonn-, Fest-, und Feiertagen,
    zum Gebrauche bei der
    häuslichen Erbauung
    von Prälat Friederich Albert Hauber
    Generalsuperintendent und erster Frühprediger
    am Münster zu Ulm.

    Mit 25 Holzschnitten.


    Translated (fairly directly) into English:

    Gospel House-preaching book
    Sermons
    on the Gospels
    for every
    Sunday, Festival and Holiday
    for the use of
    the Edification of the Household
    by Prelate Friederich Albert Hauber
    General Superintendent and First Early Preacher
    at Ulm Münster.

    With 25 Woodcuts.
     
  20. Elizabeth

    Elizabeth Puritan Board Sophomore

    Here's a variation on that theme, Heidi, from one of my favorite Mahler albums.
    The incomparable Goerne singing:
     
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