Faith is a grace (WCF 14.1). Faith is an instrument (WCF 10.2). Faith is an instrument that receives justification. Do any of these things have anything to do with Christ? Or even Adam in the garden?
Faith is more than simply "not knowing things." Man (even in glory) will never be omniscient like God. Does that mean we need faith forever? Not according to the Scriptures. Faith is more than simply trusting - it is trusting in absence of sight. Just as hope is more than expecting - it is expecting in the absence of sight (Romans 8:24-25)
Does anyone notice that the Confession never speaks once of Christ's faith? What it speaks of is His obedience and death. It is His obedience (in life and death) that purchase redemption, justification, adoption, etc. for His people.
As soon as you admit Christ had (and had need of) faith, you open up Pandora's box to a bushel of heresies, not the least of which are the New Perspective and the FV view of Adam (as Lane has pointed out).
The hypostatic union does not require Christ to have faith. Even with the incontrovertible point that Christ in His humanity did not know all things, He can still say:
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Chris,
I think trust is a part of faith, not faith itself. So I think we can say *rightly* that Christ had trust, but not that He had faith.
Faith is more than simply "not knowing things." Man (even in glory) will never be omniscient like God. Does that mean we need faith forever? Not according to the Scriptures. Faith is more than simply trusting - it is trusting in absence of sight. Just as hope is more than expecting - it is expecting in the absence of sight (Romans 8:24-25)
Does anyone notice that the Confession never speaks once of Christ's faith? What it speaks of is His obedience and death. It is His obedience (in life and death) that purchase redemption, justification, adoption, etc. for His people.
As soon as you admit Christ had (and had need of) faith, you open up Pandora's box to a bushel of heresies, not the least of which are the New Perspective and the FV view of Adam (as Lane has pointed out).
The hypostatic union does not require Christ to have faith. Even with the incontrovertible point that Christ in His humanity did not know all things, He can still say:
Matthew 11:27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him
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If faith, can be defined, in this one limited sense, then Jesus can be said to have faith.Isn't an integral part of faith the not knowing but trusting [in God] aspect? Then surely Christ as God-man, who did not know certain things (Mt 24:35-36), had to have faith concerning those things he did not know, right?
The hypostatic union is what is causing the confusion, I think.
Chris,
I think trust is a part of faith, not faith itself. So I think we can say *rightly* that Christ had trust, but not that He had faith.