chivalry / gentlemanly conduct

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Scott

Puritan Board Graduate
Any recommended resources for teaching boys chivalry and gentlemanly conduct?
 

Scott

Puritan Board Graduate
BTW, this is from Leon Gauitier's Chivalry (Gauiter was a 19th century literary historian, who was an expert in French medieval chivalric literature):

1. Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches, and shalt observe all its directions.
2. Thou shalt defend the Church.
3. Thou shalt repect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them.
4. Thou shalt love the country in the which thou wast born.
5. Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy.
6. Thou shalt make war against the Infidel without cessation, and without mercy.
7. Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God.
8. Thou shalt never lie, and shall remain faithful to thy pledged word.
9. Thou shalt be generous, and give largess to everyone.
10. Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil.
 

LadyCalvinist

Puritan Board Junior
Focus on the family has a book "Raising Modern day Knights" about how to help your sons become men. Also, the works of G.A. Henry and some of the works of Sir walter Scott, particuarly his poetry, have characters that model chivalrous behavior. Also Charlotte M. Yonge is another another 19th author that wrote historical fiction and on the plus side she was a devout Christian.
 

Pergamum

Ordinary Guy (TM)
Sorry to throw a wrench in here.....

So much of this "chivalry" stuff mistakes people's ideas of good manners with Biblical conduct. Christ was not very polite at times.

I am tired of prim and proper arrogance telling me that cleanlienss is next to Godliness and that a good Christian will keep his yard perfectly cut. Or, last year, implying that a good wife (to my wife) will make sure she uses real plates instead of styrofoam all the time.


Much of this is not Gospel-drawn practices, but only Western forms of politeness.

Let's kick Miss Manners and her annoying ways to the curb!!!
 

Puddleglum

Puritan Board Sophomore
Trevor,
I think I can understand a little of what you're reacting to . . . but I don't necessarily agree that that's what this thread is about. Re-read the list that Scott posted - "defend the Church - not recoil before thine enemy - always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil" doesn't exactly sound "polite" to me!
 

Pergamum

Ordinary Guy (TM)
Reread the post....yep, my hastiness once again got the best of me.

Sounds like a decent ten-point plan...

as long as Miss Manners is not enforcing them!




Yes, Future Men by Wilson is a great book on the subject. Men with backbone, honor and grit is what we need!
 

Robin

Puritan Board Junior
In an age where rudeness is order of the day...it's good to hear fathers consider the skills required to raise godly sons.

As a woman, I'll settle for men caring about basic, civil conduct (common grace category) at least.

Meanwhile...check this out - and reflect, how much further we've sunk from Washington's day. (Imagine - a 16 year old writing this!)

George Washington, sometime before the age of 16, transcribed Rules of Civility & Decent Behaviour In Company and Conversation.

http://www.history.org/Almanack/life/manners/rules2.cfm

:book2:

Robin
 

LadyFlynt

Puritan Board Doctor
Gaining Favour with God and Man by William Thayer is excellent (one that I can recommend based on owning and having read it).

Also seconding G.A. Henty on historical fiction points.

I have heard good things about The Birkenhead Drill by Douglas Phillips.

[Edited on 2-9-2006 by LadyFlynt]
 

satz

Puritan Board Senior
Originally posted by Scott
BTW, this is from Leon Gauitier's Chivalry (Gauiter was a 19th century literary historian, who was an expert in French medieval chivalric literature):

1. Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches, and shalt observe all its directions.
2. Thou shalt defend the Church.
3. Thou shalt repect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them.
4. Thou shalt love the country in the which thou wast born.
5. Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy.
6. Thou shalt make war against the Infidel without cessation, and without mercy.
7. Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God.
8. Thou shalt never lie, and shall remain faithful to thy pledged word.
9. Thou shalt be generous, and give largess to everyone.
10. Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil.
sounds great!

For point no. 1 though, why not replace 'church' with 'bible'?
 

Semper Fidelis

2 Timothy 2:24-25
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Originally posted by dkicklig
Future Men
Generally a good book. My primary criticism is that it makes some very strident statements that are unnecessarily offensive. Let's face it, we have some men that didn't play sports or do "rough and tumble" kinds of things coming up.

One gets the idea from Wilson that if a man throws like a girl he needs to get with the program or his son will be a miserable failure as a man. I'm being a bit hyperbolic but I could see that book causing a family to recoil from a Church because they're not immediately on board with Wilson's arguments.

His convictions are in some secondary issues but are presented so strongly as to come across as essentials of the faith. In that, I think it could be a cause of needless division.
 

satz

Puritan Board Senior
I think there is a balance to be struck here. Biblical values of kindness, gentleness, graciousness etc are not to be mistaken for being sissified or effiminate.

On the other hand, there is certainly a sense in which the touchy-feely, false-love-to-everyone mentality that is the result of seeker sensitive arminian theology has to be refuted.

If we look at Jesus, Paul, David and other men of God in the bible we can see both gentleness and harshness, depending on what the situation requires. Let us not go too far into either extreme and become unbalanced.

In anycase, if a man is completely obedient and uncompromising on the word of God, i think that makes him man enough in God's sight. It doesn't matter if he has pasty white skin and can't catch a ball to save his life.
 

Robin

Puritan Board Junior
Originally posted by SemperFideles
Originally posted by dkicklig
Future Men
Generally a good book. My primary criticism is that it makes some very strident statements that are unnecessarily offensive. Let's face it, we have some men that didn't play sports or do "rough and tumble" kinds of things coming up.

One gets the idea from Wilson that if a man throws like a girl he needs to get with the program or his son will be a miserable failure as a man. I'm being a bit hyperbolic but I could see that book causing a family to recoil from a Church because they're not immediately on board with Wilson's arguments.

His convictions are in some secondary issues but are presented so strongly as to come across as essentials of the faith. In that, I think it could be a cause of needless division.
:ditto: An understatement....

r. :cool:
 
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